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Old 08-07-2018, 02:44 AM
 
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Great column contrasting LeBron with Donald Trump:

<<LeBron James said recently on CNN that President Donald Trump is trying to divide the country racially. It was his most recent criticism of Trump. Trump responded that CNN’s Don Lemon is so lacking in intelligence that “he made LeBron look smart, which isn’t easy to do.”

This is what these guys do. LeBron believes it is important for him to use his platform to speak up on issues he finds important. Meanwhile, Trump is willing to hurl insults at anyone who doesn’t say laudatory things about him. He’s scrapped with Gold Star families, prisoners of war, judges and law enforcement officials – he’s certainly not going to take anything from a pro athlete.

Like or loathe it, this is America’s reality these days. They are both grown-ups. They can handle this themselves.

The more germane question is trying to decide if Trump is correct and that LeBron is, as Trump implies, not smart....

Incredible basketball skills allowed him to get out. He understands his great fortune and how without it, he might not have. As such, he’s poured money and time into helping those who won’t grow up to be 6-foot-8.

The core principle behind everything is creating safe and healthy environments so kids learn to value education and the self-reliance it brings.
Is that smart?....

You won’t find many (any?) paparazzi photos of LeBron stumbling out of a nightclub. You will find him cheering at his kids’ athletic events. His sons hang around his locker after games sometimes. He FaceTimes with his 3-year-old daughter, who clearly has him wrapped around her little finger.

The need for great fathers in this country can’t be overstated, particularly in the African-American community.

Here is a high-profile dad, one who has everything, and he doesn’t just embrace the challenges of the job. He broadcasts and celebrates the joy fatherhood produces, championing it as more important than NBA glory.

It’s remarkable. It really is. And it’s impossible to know how many millions of fathers it touches in ways big and small.

LeBron James isn’t perfect. No one is. He may not even be close. And certainly, neither the public nor the media know everything about him, or even most about him. He might be paying off porn stars for all we know.

Heading into his 16th NBA season though, he’s still walking the talk, as well as cutting the checks. He isn’t willing to “shut up and dribble” like he was once told to do on Fox News.

Maybe that’s smart. Or maybe that isn’t.

Or maybe that’s just a guy trying, as much as one person can, to make America great.
Again … or with some of these kids, for the first time.>>

https://sports.yahoo.com/lets-clear-...035015565.html

 
Old 08-07-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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probably not good idea to call someone dumb. Of course Lebron saying Trump dividing country racially, actually that was done by the previous president.
 
Old 08-07-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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probably not good idea to call someone dumb. Of course Lebron saying Trump dividing country racially, actually that was done by the previous president.
Yep, Obama turned out to be the racially divisive president despite his eloquence and coolness...trained well in Chicago.

And Don Lemonhead at CNN is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 
Old 08-07-2018, 09:00 AM
 
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probably not good idea to call someone dumb. Of course Lebron saying Trump dividing country racially, actually that was done by the previous president.
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Yep, Obama turned out to be the racially divisive president despite his eloquence and coolness...trained well in Chicago.
Baloney. Care to explain these IMO ridiculous assertions about Obama?

Are you seriously dismissing Trump's repeated attempts to encourage racial division?

Likely you dismiss Trump's championship of the claim that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii throughout most of his Presidency, a claim that Trump subsequently renounced after many years of Fox News agitation.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/polit...nyt/index.html

Last edited by WRnative; 08-07-2018 at 10:02 AM..
 
Old 08-07-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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People still watch TV?
 
Old 08-07-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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probably not good idea to call someone dumb. Of course Lebron saying Trump dividing country racially, actually that was done by the previous president.
Well heck if racism and racial division in this country only began in 2008 then it shouldn't be too difficult to fix!
 
Old 08-07-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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And Don Lemonhead at CNN is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
The irony of Trump accusing anyone of having a "low IQ" is that the man himself isn't all that bright. Just listen to him speak. Limited vocabulary, rarely any coherent analysis on issues, and oftentimes completely wrong when he does try to talk about issues in depth.
 
Old 08-07-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Default Is Trump dumb or in the early stages of dementia

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The irony of Trump accusing anyone of having a "low IQ" is that the man himself isn't all that bright. Just listen to him speak. Limited vocabulary, rarely any coherent analysis on issues, and oftentimes completely wrong when he does try to talk about issues in depth.
What's of great concern is that Trump is not dumb. He's a graduate of the Wharton School.

When looking at old tapes of Trump from a decade ago or more, he clearly was an intelligent man.

So the worry is that he is undergoing a level of mental decline that poses great risks to the nation, especially given some of the persons serving as key advisors (e.g., IMO, Bolton, Kudlow). It's frightening that a key architect (Bolton) of the Iraq invasion and an individual (Kudlow) who labeled the Bush economy as we entered the Great Recession a "Goldilocks" economy are key Trump advisors.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...mental-decline

Kudlow once again is claiming that the recent Republican tax cuts will slash the federal budget deficit in the long run, a prospect rejected by almost all economists and important participants in our economy. Kudlow made the same argument about the Bush tax cuts and was disastrously wrong, as the nation went from cash surpluses to trillion dollar deficits. Be afraid.

See post 31 and subsequent posts:

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ce-gary-4.html
 
Old 08-07-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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The irony of Trump accusing anyone of having a "low IQ" is that the man himself isn't all that bright. Just listen to him speak. Limited vocabulary, rarely any coherent analysis on issues, and oftentimes completely wrong when he does try to talk about issues in depth.
Trump is definitely not dumb. I think his persona is all an act. He learned a lot from TV and can read people, masses of people especially, very well. And yes, WRnative is totally right. Trump is somewhat soft spoken, careful, and intelligent in interviews from the 80s.
 
Old 08-08-2018, 02:31 AM
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This thread has nothing to do with Cleveland.
Either go to the Pro Sport forum or to the Politics and Other Controversies board.
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