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Old 04-16-2008, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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There is a quiet a lot of construction going on and things being planned for Cleveland.
Hope it comes to pass. When I lived there almost 30 years ago the downtown area was dominated by the large department stores, Higbees, Halles and May Co (I think I got these names right, correct me if I'm wrong). We bought some of our living room furniture downtown at a large multi level furniture store, I believe it was called Levy's.

When I returned to Cleveland part time in the early 1990's, the Flats were really hopping, Terminal Tower shopping had been significantly upgraded, the Galleria existed on what I believe had been a surface parking lot, but the large stores were all shut down. What is now the Warehouse District was pretty dead. Things have changed for certain.

I have never understood why the city has made such poor use of the lakeshore area. It seems like the museums and stadium wouldn't really be best fits for lakefront, unless integrated with condos and shopping plaza's. Much of the best part of downtown (kind of thinking about other lake cities like Chicago, Milwaukee and Toronto) seems to be cut off from the rest, and I hope they fix this over time.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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^^The lakeshore problems date waaay back...but here's my reasons:
1) Majority of the port takes up most of the room
2) Railoroads that were built walled off much access
3) Burke Lakefront used more prime land
4) US freeway system was the last dagger in walling off the feel
5) Lastly, what was mentioned above to an extent, minimal/no infrastructure to go along with the new museums and stadium...but at least Voinivich park is nice!
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Also good news, the old Breuer Tower will proceed with it's conversion to the first number of floors being hotel and the top part apartments/condos:

Crain's Cleveland Business: K&D Group wins OK of Ameritrust complex deal

A new 13 story tower closer to the Indians stadium is planned to be constructed as well.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Also good news, the old Breuer Tower will proceed with it's conversion to the first number of floors being hotel and the top part apartments/condos:

Crain's Cleveland Business: K&D Group wins OK of Ameritrust complex deal

A new 13 story tower closer to the Indians stadium is planned to be constructed as well.

Is this the 30 story building that had been proposed for demolition? It sounds familiar to me.

If it is, how did they resolve the concern about poor space utility? As I remember, the concerns had to do with much of the interior space being used up for mechanical stuff, leaving insufficient office/other space.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Yep that's the one. The old Rotunda should be the main pedestrian entrance.

Space? not sure on this one...but the county is paying for the asbestos removal. But the current price tag seems to be around $200 million first refitting the space/building anew.
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Also good news, the old Breuer Tower will proceed with it's conversion to the first number of floors being hotel and the top part apartments/condos:

Crain's Cleveland Business: K&D Group wins OK of Ameritrust complex deal

A new 13 story tower closer to the Indians stadium is planned to be constructed as well.
Great news! Had not heard about this.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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Default Courthouse Plaza?

[URL="//www.city-data.com/forum/members/costello_musicman-228881.html"]costello_musicman[/URL] - Can you give any details about the Courthouse Plaza? That's one building in your post I wasn't familiar with. Where exactly will it be and who's behind it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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costello_musicman - Can you give any details about the Courthouse Plaza? That's one building in your post I wasn't familiar with. Where exactly will it be and who's behind it?
I'm probably the wrong one to ask, but I did a quick search and did find this:

Courthouse Plaza Cleveland

You may want to ask in the original forum in the link you're inquiring.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:29 AM
 
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New to CA -

I beleive the space issues become a non factor for residential. the biggest space issues that old office buildings have are too many columns and not enough contiguous space. Residential use does not need this as spaces are obviously subdivided into smaller rooms... i.e. living rooms, bedrooms, bathrooms. Also the mechanical needed for residential is smaller and therefore not as much headroom is needed. With the current issues with more residential needed downtown and more new class A office space needed there could be many highrise office building switching over to residential as tenants leave for the flats east bank project or other new offices on the horizon.
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Old 05-28-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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New proposal for a new downtwon skyscraper--should tie nicely into Stark's plans. (plus first-floor retail!)

Jacobs, Hines to build 21-story office tower on Public Square - Cleveland Business News – The Latest Breaking News, Earnings Reports and Stories from The Plain Dealer

Rendition from Cleveland.com:

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