Cleveland Plain Dealer....being shut down? (Painesville, Washington: eat, deal, business)

[TechieTechie]

I've read this article and I'm confused. Is the PD as a print paper being shut down? Or is it really that they are combining 2 legacy news organizations into one?


Help...



https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and...ossible-choice

[D231]

They've been pushing leftist nonsense for years through their newspaper and Cleveland.com, essentially turning the entire organization into a joke. They had this coming.

[TheProf]

Originally Posted by D231

They've been pushing leftist nonsense for years through their newspaper and Cleveland.com, essentially turning the entire organization into a joke. They had this coming.

For one thing, the PD has a history of leaning to the right, at least editorially and, in recent years, they've had their weekly editorial roundtable where editors from the left and right would opine on various issues. Kevin O'Brien, who left a year or so ago, was a hardcore conservative opinion writer and he was replaced by a guy with similar views. The paper had endorsed Republicans for president up until Obama, and I seriously doubt they supported Trump -- many conservatives jumped ship on him... That said, it's patently ridiculous to wish for the demise of a major city's last major newspaper just because you perceive it to be (wrongly) different from your ideology... Very childish on your part.

[TechieTechie]

Guys, I'm not asking about left or right or purple people eater. Please let's not get into that.



I'm trying to understand if this is an internal reorg but the paper (and any supporting online site streaming the same content) will still be around.

[columbusboy8]

Originally Posted by TheProf

For one thing, the PD has a history of leaning to the right, at least editorially and, in recent years, they've had their weekly editorial roundtable where editors from the left and right would opine on various issues. Kevin O'Brien, who left a year or so ago, was a hardcore conservative opinion writer and he was replaced by a guy with similar views. The paper had endorsed Republicans for president up until Obama, and I seriously doubt they supported Trump -- many conservatives jumped ship on him... That said, it's patently ridiculous to wish for the demise of a major city's last major newspaper just because you perceive it to be (wrongly) different from your ideology... Very childish on your part.

I'm not familiar with the Cleveland paper but I am familiar with the Washington Post. For years I subscribed to the Post. I'm a conservative and finally got so sick & tired of this rag going TOTALLY left that I called in to cancel. The lady said she would offer me a great deal to stay, and asked me why I'm canceling. I told her straight up that the paper was no longer the great paper it used to be, and that now it's WAY TOO LEFT for me. She said...and I quote: "I understand."

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by columbusboy8

I'm not familiar with the Cleveland paper but I am familiar with the Washington Post. For years I subscribed to the Post. I'm a conservative and finally got so sick & tired of this rag going TOTALLY left that I called in to cancel. The lady said she would offer me a great deal to stay, and asked me why I'm canceling. I told her straight up that the paper was no longer the great paper it used to be, and that now it's WAY TOO LEFT for me. She said...and I quote: "I understand."

And you took that comment by a polite customer rep as an affirmation of your opinion???

[eddie1261]

Originally Posted by WRnative

And you took that comment by a polite customer rep as an affirmation of your opinion???

Well, she DID understand that he HAS an opinion and wanted to quit the paper. I also did not see any affirmation there.

[Natural510]

Originally Posted by columbusboy8

I'm not familiar with the Cleveland paper but I am familiar with the Washington Post. For years I subscribed to the Post. I'm a conservative and finally got so sick & tired of this rag going TOTALLY left that I called in to cancel. The lady said she would offer me a great deal to stay, and asked me why I'm canceling. I told her straight up that the paper was no longer the great paper it used to be, and that now it's WAY TOO LEFT for me. She said...and I quote: "I understand."

I can understand that as a progressive, and ignore the WaPo for a different reason. It's owned by Jeff Bezos and once Bernie Sanders started his campaign to increase Amazon worker pay and conditions, the paper went 100% negative on his campaign. Just a different era of the same old tycoons deciding which news the public should see.

[on3]

Originally Posted by WRnative

And you took that comment by a polite customer rep as an affirmation of your opinion???

As a big **** eating grin forms on your face knowing that the News Herald will never let you down.

[Ohiogirl81]

That is insane and I guess I haven't been following the PD scene for awhile, because I'm stunned that Advance - which once was a reputable organization - is pulling this crap.

This is nothing but a union busting move. Cleveland.com staffers are non-union; PD staffers are in the Guild. Cleveland.com staffers will get the plum assignments; PD staffers are farmed out to the hinterlands. And you know the instant something exciting happens in Chardon or Painesville that the PD staffers will be bumped from the story.

Sweet Jesus ... I know a few former Advance execs and PD editors who are spinning in their graves.

The New York Times and the New York Post also have coverage; I'm sure CJR, Poynter and other industry publications will weigh in.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/202...cleveland.html

https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/clevel...blow-to-union/

I am sick over this.

Originally Posted by on3

As a big **** eating grin forms on your face knowing that the News Herald will never let you down.

As a former news staffer of a N-H competitor ... LMAO.