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Old 09-27-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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WRnative, the info on tornadoes and radon is appreciated. Seems radon can be remediated for a price, which is good to know. As for tornadoes, not a huge fan ever since we had an F5 roar through my area in Trumbull County back in 1985. But realistically, we have more risk where I live now with wildfires and earthquakes. So won’t let that hold us back from a move. Cheers.

Prepare for a safe room in tornado prone areas. Have a weather radio (and Accuweather app; see below) in your bedroom during tornado season. Definitely buy a blowhorn and keep it charged with fresh batteries for use to alert rescuers. If your house has a basement, store the blow horn in the safe area, perhaps with helmets and other supplies, including a weather radio with a crank feature, which also can be used to charge cellphones. Keep food and water in this safe area. Have a sturdy metal table to take shelter under if the event of an actual hit.

https://www.weather.gov/oun/safety-severe-homesafety


https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...ty-tips/212026



https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...-strike/433759


Most importantly, keep trees pruned and remove problematic trees.



Some national roofing materials companies offer lifetime insurance on their superior products; worth the price IMO if you're re-roofing. Hail damage also is an issue for roofs in northeast Ohio.



In northeast Ohio, TV stations are great at interrupting programming to track tornado systems, warning very specifically about tornado paths and danger areas. So perhaps have a TV in your safe area. Thankfully, tornado episodes typically last only several hours, less in specific areas.



One other thing, use an expert local agent for your insurance needs, especially initially. Check out flood insurance, which is applicable even if not near a creek, river, lake, etc., such as if storm sewers back up and flood your basement (an issue in some northeast Ohio neighborhoods, sometimes due to poor maintenance after major construction projects). Multi-inch/hour rainstorms are not unusual in northeast Ohio. Also, strongly consider purchasing back-up insurance, especially if your house, like most in northeast Ohio, lacks a back-up prevention system. These insurance riders are much more important than earthquake insurance in northeast Ohio.


An important consideration is uninsured motorist coverage, not cheap, but cheaper than in CA. Get $2 million (consider inflation in recent decades AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE) or more of umbrella coverage now, because as you get older higher umbrella limits won't be available. A good agent would explain this.



Earthquakes are a minor issue in northeast Ohio, but they do take place. Most persons do not earthquake proof their homes as many persons do in California, so much damage takes place from falling items. You'll find earthquake insurance surprisingly cheap in Ohio, but with deductibles that often make it somewhat useless. Perhaps use the money saved to earthquake proof your home, a process probably familiar to you.


Just a knowledge dump.

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Old 09-27-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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I've been living NEO for most of my 55 years and can't remember any deaths being caused by a tornado. I'm sure there's been some but nothing I can remember. I wouldn't be too concerned in NEO. Now Central, Southern, Western Ohio is different, they can get them, even F5s. Such as Xenia, Dayton, even Cardington got hit pretty good one year.

Interesting site: https://talkweather.com/threads/us-t...1990-2016.233/

According to that site, Ohio averages about 1 death per year by tornado (since 1990) - and this is dominated by areas of Southern and Western Ohio.
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:54 PM
 
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You are welcome. I pulled this from various threads and it's really helped me narrow my searches. This section of metro CLE is on par with any streetcar suburb on the east coast...it's stunningly beautiful. And it's (I'm in Onaway in SH):

1. 20 minutes to downtown (and Asiatown restaurants more importantly to ME)
2. 15 minutes to the marina at 55th street
3. 10 minutes to Severance Hall
4. Maybe 25 minutes to Chagrin Falls reservation
5. 20 minutes to big box (Costco and TJs for me are a must). And the Heinen's in Shaker is good
6: 10 minutes to the Clinic.

Just be prepared for larger than expected taxes and smallish yards (under 10k) unless you want a huge house or get lucky for one of the rare properties on a double lot. Edwin's Restaurant (Shaker Square), On the Rise Bakery (CH Cedar/Taylor) and Han Chinese Kabob (Sichuan in Asiatown) are on par with Best of Boston food. The only real downside IMHO is that access to the larger Metroparks is more of a hassle (but it's an even trade for some really excellent grub).

I am about 6 months ahead of you on searching...and the same type of boomerrang transplant, just from the East Coast instead of West. Feel free to PM if you have questions.

Good luck
FYI, there is an opportunity in Shaker Heights to expand your lot through the city's Vacant Lot Program. More information here: https://www.shakeronline.com/275/Vac...20vacant%20lot.

DR J
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Old 09-28-2020, 07:33 AM
 
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We're somewhat of an anomaly in that we are not really prioritizing space per dollar. Our sweet spot is about 1900-2400 square feet, and many of the homes in Shaker Heights are simply too big for our purposes (even though the price point is fine). It's only 2 of us.

From what I see online, we like Lakewood homes, but more like Shaker Heights lot sizes Wife likes to garden
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Just be prepared for larger than expected taxes and smallish yards (under 10k) unless you want a huge house or get lucky for one of the rare properties on a double lot.
SlideRules, as Dr J said, you might want to keep an eye out for a home with a neighboring vacant lot, left right or even behind.

Here's the page for vacant lots through the Shaker Heights' land bank. Between this, the county land bank, and private owners, there are ~600 or so vacant lots in Shaker if I recall correctly. Plus there are many double lots that have already been consolidated into one property, or even double lots that were originally built as such back in the 1920s-1950s.

I think you may want to deviate from the overstated "north of Van Aken, east of Lee" advice about Shaker. The Ludlow, Lomond, Sussex, and Moreland neighborhoods have smaller homes in the style that you are looking for, and with larger lots than you'll find in Lakewood.
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Old 09-28-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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Thanks Dr J and Ferraris for the info on the SH vacant lot program. That certainly adds another option into the mix. I’ll incorporate this possibility as part of the scouting trip. Cheers!
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Old 09-28-2020, 03:32 PM
 
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I always take these "lists" with a grain of salt but it is interesting to compare WA, OR, CA, NV, with some of the ratings, including OH:

https://www.smarter.com/slideshow/wo...Index&o=740011

With the riots and fires, maybe it is time for us to think about finding someplace else so I started to look again, and again. Since OP thinking about going from West to East, I thought I would post this list, for what it is worth.
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Old 09-28-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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FYI, there is an opportunity in Shaker Heights to expand your lot through the city's Vacant Lot Program. More information here: https://www.shakeronline.com/275/Vac...20vacant%20lot.

DR J

Thanks Dr J....over the winter I was considering a 2 family that had a vacant lot next to it (and read up on the program)...need to remember this!


Techie
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Old 09-28-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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You are welcome. I pulled this from various threads and it's really helped me narrow my searches. This section of metro CLE is on par with any streetcar suburb on the east coast...it's stunningly beautiful. And it's (I'm in Onaway in SH):

1. 20 minutes to downtown (and Asiatown restaurants more importantly to ME)
2. 15 minutes to the marina at 55th street
3. 10 minutes to Severance Hall
4. Maybe 25 minutes to Chagrin Falls reservation
5. 20 minutes to big box (Costco and TJs for me are a must). And the Heinen's in Shaker is good
6: 10 minutes to the Clinic.

Just be prepared for larger than expected taxes and smallish yards (under 10k) unless you want a huge house or get lucky for one of the rare properties on a double lot. Edwin's Restaurant (Shaker Square), On the Rise Bakery (CH Cedar/Taylor) and Han Chinese Kabob (Sichuan in Asiatown) are on par with Best of Boston food. The only real downside IMHO is that access to the larger Metroparks is more of a hassle (but it's an even trade for some really excellent grub).

I am about 6 months ahead of you on searching...and the same type of boomerrang transplant, just from the East Coast instead of West. Feel free to PM if you have questions.

Good luck
Good stuff ... and that Rapid?
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Old 09-28-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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Good stuff ... and that Rapid?

True...completely forgot about the RTA! Shaker's (above ground trains) can whisk one from the west end of Shaker into downtown in under 30 minutes. Shame Cleveland never really expanded on this concept besides what are essentially 2 lines. But hey, it's 2 more than Cbus or Indy
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Old 09-29-2020, 03:16 AM
 
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You are welcome. I pulled this from various threads and it's really helped me narrow my searches. This section of metro CLE is on par with any streetcar suburb on the east coast...it's stunningly beautiful. And it's (I'm in Onaway in SH):

1. 20 minutes to downtown (and Asiatown restaurants more importantly to ME)
2. 15 minutes to the marina at 55th street
3. 10 minutes to Severance Hall
4. Maybe 25 minutes to Chagrin Falls reservation
5. 20 minutes to big box (Costco and TJs for me are a must). And the Heinen's in Shaker is good
6: 10 minutes to the Clinic.

Just be prepared for larger than expected taxes and smallish yards (under 10k) unless you want a huge house or get lucky for one of the rare properties on a double lot. Edwin's Restaurant (Shaker Square), On the Rise Bakery (CH Cedar/Taylor) and Han Chinese Kabob (Sichuan in Asiatown) are on par with Best of Boston food. The only real downside IMHO is that access to the larger Metroparks is more of a hassle (but it's an even trade for some really excellent grub).

I am about 6 months ahead of you on searching...and the same type of boomerrang transplant, just from the East Coast instead of West. Feel free to PM if you have questions.

Good luck
SH is 20- to 25-minutes from the Cuyahoga Valley National Park, which in several ways (especially size) is better than the South Chagrin Reservation. Have you ever explored any of the CVNP? If not, it may be worthwhile, especially during Leaf Turn.

If you bike, you should check out the Towpath Trail. My guess is you can reach it by car in 20 minutes or less from SH, perhaps in Independence.

Also the Bedford Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks is closer to Onaway than the South Chagrin Reservation. It contains Tinkers Creek Gorge, a National Natural Landmark.

https://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/...cenic-overlook

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/o...k-bridle-trail

Although the Bedford Reservation is owned by Cleveland Metroparks, and probably maintained by it, it is incorporated into CVNP. The CVNP perhaps uniquely among national parks incorporates parts of both the Cleveland Metroparks and the Summit Metro Parks.

https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvis...nded-hikes.htm

Onaway also is less than 20 minutes to the Cleveland Lakefront Nature Preserve, perhaps the best lakefront natural area in Cuyahoga County (is there a better one?).

Cleveland Lakefront Nature Preserve | Port of Cleveland

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/o...ature-preserve

It's a great destination for birders.

Onaway is 40 minutes from Holden Arboretum, one of the nation's best. Have you visited it yet? Holden and the Cleveland Botanical Garden in University Circle have merged and share memberships. Holden is another great destination for Leaf Turn, and it has large natural areas that also are National Natural Landmarks. If you visit, bring binoculars for the Emergent Tower.

https://holdenarb.org/visit/canopy-walk-emergent-tower/

https://holdenarb.org/horticulture/c...eas-at-holden/

Holden's Stebbins Gulch offers a great winter adventure.

http://ianadamsphotography.com/news/...g-an-iphone-6/

Nearby Holden are several excellent Lake Metroparks. The Farmpark has a great sugarbush and quilt festival in February and March, along with many newborn animals.

Perhaps most importantly IMO, Onaway is only 10 minutes from University Circle and its great cultural institutions. UC offers a multitude of enjoyable activities throughout the year.

You've probably never been to a Cleveland Museum of Art Mix, as the physical events have been suspended during the epidemic, but you may enjoy them greatly.

https://www.clevelandart.org/events/...nts/mix-at-cma

This likely was the last physical Mix in 2020:

https://www.clevelandart.org/about/p...y-april-3-2015

And if you enjoy film, both the CMA film series and the Cleveland Institute of Art's Cinematheque combined offer robust programming to Clevelanders.

https://www.clevelandart.org/cancele...stponed-events

If you enjoy Asian food, have you dined at Shuhei or Pearl Asian Kitchen yet?

https://shuheirestaurant.com/

Cafe Tandoor, with its original location on South Taylor in Cleveland Heights, is one of the better Indian restaurants in Greater Cleveland.

https://www.cafetandoorcleveland.com/

Do you enjoy the Van Aken District?

Eat + Drink - The Van Aken District | Mixed-Use Real Estate in Shaker Heights, OH

Banter, with a location at Van Aken District, is nationally acclaimed for its poutine and its Polish Boy sandwiches (I greatly prefer the latter). Banter's Polish Boy is the best that I've had of Cleveland's iconic sandwich.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and...n-america-list

National food critic Larry Olmsted is a big fan of Banter.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...g74kJ-OotfgCjY

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryol.../#35f2a30d3217

One great aspect of SH's rail rapid access is that it's possible to take an Uber/Lyft to Shaker Square or another station and go directly into the Cleveland Hopkins terminal after switching to the Red Line. This may be a hassle with a lot of luggage.

BTW, have you ever taken your pooch to the dog beaches at Edgewater or Fairport Harbor?

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