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Old 05-08-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Husband and I are moving to Cleveland area from Northeast for healthcare job. We would like to be within 20-25 mins driving distance to Parma for work. We are planning to rent for the first year maybe in downtown or near downtown until we get the chance to explore and get to know the suburbs and then we will buy a house. We are planning to be in the area at least the next 3-5 years.

We had the chance to visit Cleveland only for a weekend and looked into some of the downtown luxury apartment buildings (Lumen, Beacon, The May), which were really nice, but we realized we are looking for more of a neighborhood feel. We then looked at a smaller apt building we really liked in Ohio City and liked the town overall, but got concerned about the not so nice areas and safety there. Unfortunately we didn’t get the chance to explore other neighborhoods like Lakewood, Tremont or Shaker Heights, and don’t know if we will get the chance to. We are ok paying up to $2000-$2500 for rent on a 2 bedroom that’s nice and safe.

I’m looking for pros and cons of living in downtown vs Ohio city. Also I’m not sure if we are limiting ourselves by looking only into these two areas, and wether we should invest more time (although not sure we even have) into looking into the other neighborhoods.
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Old 05-08-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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Default Consider a suburb instead?

Perhaps instead consider apartment complexes in Rocky River or Independence, especially if you like nature, or even renting a home in Parma, Seven Hills, or a nearby suburb. It's easier to visit downtown or Ohio City than commute to Parma.

You haven't explained why you are so interested in downtown and Ohio City.

There isn't much difference IMO between the two given their proximity to one another -- a walk across the Hope Memorial Bridge (Cleveland's Brooklyn Bridge) or one stop on the Red Line. Downtown offers a greater range of housing options, more restaurants and bars, easier proximity to pro sports, Playhouse Square, the East Flats, and the Healthline bus rapid for trips to the Cleveland Clinic and University Circle (e.g., the Cleveland Museum of Art and the Cleveland Orchestra at Severance Hall).

Ohio City offers the West Side Market and the Market District, and slightly closer proximity to Edgewater Park.

Check any commutes on Google maps. Personally, I wouldn't count on or enjoy I-77 centric commutes.
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Old 05-08-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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Thank you for the suggestions.
For our search we initially started with downtown since we thought it would be the area with more likelihood of having nice apr buildings with stuff to do in the town.

Will definitely check out for apartment buildings in Independence and Rocky River
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Old 05-08-2021, 10:00 PM
 
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Thank you for the suggestions.
For our search we initially started with downtown since we thought it would be the area with more likelihood of having nice apr buildings with stuff to do in the town.

Will definitely check out for apartment buildings in Independence and Rocky River
Rocky River would have more to do than Independence. It also has easy Red Line park 'n ride rail access to both Ohio City and downtown. Perhaps post and ask about Rocky River apartments/rentals, and what you should check out there (e.g., downtown) during a visit. Lakewood also should be considered. E.g., check both Rocky River and Lakewood restaurants at both yelp.com and tripadvisor.com.

Have you explored this thread yet?

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...mmunities.html
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:52 AM
 
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We had the chance to visit Cleveland only for a weekend and looked into some of the downtown luxury apartment buildings (Lumen, Beacon, The May), which were really nice, but we realized we are looking for more of a neighborhood feel.
Did you check the parking when looking at these apartments? I suspect that the Lumen, as it was recently built, has far superior parking. It likely also has an easier commute to Parma using the Innerbelt (I-71 south). Google maps says it offers surprisingly a 15-minute commute to Parma. Commuting to Parma from downtown would be against the grain.

Did you read this thread, especially post 3?

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...cleveland.html

When you visited Playhouse Square, it was during the pandemic. Playhouse Square did not have its normal vibe. The Heinen's at the Ameritrust Rotunda wasn't fully reopened (deli, great wine tastings, etc.). You likely didn't visit the East 5th Street Arcades, or walk through Playhouse Square to the Hofbrauhaus, or check out the Cleveland State rec center community options, which offers an Olympic-sized swimming pool among other features not common downtown. Did you visit "Yours Truly," on the same block as the Lumen? It likely will be packed once again post-pandemic, and offers arguably the best downtown breakfast option.

https://www.csuohio.edu/recreationce...ter-membership

Ex-pandemic, Euclid Avenue through the CSU campus offers a campus strip. It also offers typical university activities ex-football.

For me, a big advantage of the Lumen is living on the Healthline bus rapid, facilitating easier trips to University Circle. Did you visit UC? It recently was voted the number one arts district in the U.S. at USA Today. The Cleveland Museum of Art is an atypical arts museum; ex-pandemic it offers a world-class performance schedule and one of the best arts film programs in the U.S., complimenting the CIA Cinemetheque. If you enjoy classical music, Severance Hall, directly on the Healthline bus rapid, is one of the best destinations in the U.S. Of course, Playhouse Square offers a plethora of options, featuring its excellent Broadway Series, the Cleveland Play House and Great Lakes Theater in the Hanna. The Allen and Hanna theater experiences are intimate and very enjoyable, as were productions that I've seen in the Outcalt Theatre. This is a dated article.

https://www.cia.edu/cinematheque

https://www.clevelandplayhouse.com/v...es-and-seating

https://www.greatlakestheater.org/your-visit/overview

This is a dated, but worthwhile travel article.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g...usesquare.html

Post-pandemic, the Lumen will once again have excellent free downtown trolley service, making it easy to visit all downtown neighborhoods.

Perhaps also visit The Nine, at the opposite end of the block from the Lumen, and closer to downtown, Progressive Field, etc. It's conveniently attached to Heinen's.

https://www.livingatthe9.com/

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Old 05-09-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR -> Rocky River, OH
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First of all, Welcome to Cleveland!

Funny you should say you're deciding between Downtown and Ohio City...my brother-in-law was literally looking at apartments Ohio City yesterday after touring several Downtown the weekend before (they looked at the Euclid Grand, Beacon, and The 9).

IMO you're spot on with your strategy. Whenever you move to a new metro, I agree with living where all the action is first before settling in a suburb if that is what you end up desiring. Normally I would not disagree with WRnative, but Indepedence would be the last place I'd look.

Ohio City / Hingetown:
1) State and Church https://livechurchandstate.com
2) Dexter https://www.dextercle.com
3) Clifton West: https://www.clintonwestcle.com
4) The Quarter: https://q2550.quarterohiocity.com/#Amenities

Gordon Square (W.65th and Detroit Ave area)
1) Edison: https://www.edisongordonsquare.com
2) The Shoreway https://www.shorewayliving.com/

Tremont:
1) Electric Garden: https://www.electricgardens.com
2) Grosvenor Place https://www.grosvenorplaceapts.com

Not sure what your medical work hours will be, but I suspect you'll find yourself being reverse rush hour most of the time.

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Old 05-09-2021, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH USA / formerly Chicago for 20 years
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Did you check the parking when looking at these apartments? I suspect that the Lumen, as it was recently built, has far superior parking. It likely also has an easier commute to Parma using the Innerbelt (I-71 south). Google maps says it offers surprisingly a 15-minute commute to Parma. Commuting to Parma from downtown would be against the grain.
Fifteen minutes to Parma is definitely doable via Route 176 (the Jennings freeway). But that's to the northeastern edge of Parma, around Broadview and Brookpark Roads. Travel within Parma to some other area will take longer, of course.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:19 PM
 
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Perhaps instead consider apartment complexes in Rocky River or Independence, especially if you like nature, or even renting a home in Parma, Seven Hills, or a nearby suburb. It's easier to visit downtown or Ohio City than commute to Parma.
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IMO you're spot on with your strategy. Whenever you move to a new metro, I agree with living where all the action is first before settling in a suburb if that is what you end up desiring. Normally I would not disagree with WRnative, but Indepedence would be the last place I'd look.
1) I emphasized living close to nature. Actually, I was thinking of Broadview Heights, not Independence. I've known persons who commuted downtown from BH and they enjoyed taking walks at the Brecksville Reservation and Cuyahoga Valley National Park after work. The Mill Stream Run Reservation also is convenient, and the excellent Bedford Reservation also is convenient to Independence. I really don't know much about living in Independence, or what apartments are available. It is closer to Parma and downtown, however. With the intersection of I-77 and I-480, it also offers rapid access to much of Greater Cleveland.

I always encourage anyone moving to Greater Cleveland to be very conscious of the location of the region's great metroparks, and often very good community recreation options.

https://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/...rail-park-maps

https://maps.clevelandmetroparks.com...ng=-81.7689616

Broadview Heights Community Recreation Center & Expansion| Architects | Denver & Dallas ~ Award-winning architectural design firm in Denver, Colorado and Dallas, Texas.

2) I hate commutes, and this I believe is a Cleveland mentality. This is especially true when you have demanding jobs and not much time to bar hop or engage in entertainment after work.

3) By living in BH or Independence, it likely would be possible to save money for a house purchase.

Still, your advice might be right on depending upon the nature of the Parma jobs (such as OT) and their interests and willingness to dine out, etc.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:23 PM
 
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Fifteen minutes to Parma is definitely doable via Route 176 (the Jennings freeway). But that's to the northeastern edge of Parma, around Broadview and Brookpark Roads. Travel within Parma to some other area will take longer, of course.
Largely living on the East Side, I've only used the Jennings Freeway a few times and forget about its existence. It's a big time saver, if you remember to stay left when zooming down I-71!
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Old Today, 10:09 AM
 
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I'd go with Ohio City, downtown has not been the same since Covid. Though it's starting to come back. Either way, Ohio City is a little more human scaled so I think it's preferable.
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