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I said "win some, loss some", so I do remember Alabama losing. I said I take nothing away from OU and they probably would compete, but beating everyone in the SEC West, not likely. My original post was not an attack on OU, relax.
I said "win some, loss some", so I do remember Alabama losing. I said I take nothing away from OU and they probably would compete, but beating everyone in the SEC West, not likely. My original post was not an attack on OU, relax.
You read into my post if you thought I believe OU would never lose. I'm sure the Sooners would have down years in the SEC West (just like there would be down years in any division/conference) but I'm confident, and more importantly I think it's clear Stoops and the OU administration would be confident, the good years would far outweigh the bad.
And I'm relaxing as I write this post so thanks for the tip.
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Hogwash, UT didn't run Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, & A&M off.
And every Big 12 team is free to sell its 3rd tier rights to a TV network just like Texas did to ESPN.
Actually, A&M specifically said that the relationship with UT and the rest of the conference was one reason it left. That and Johnny Foo'ball could get them into the SEC. Colorado is no loss and they will get kicked out of the PAC 12 eventually. If the Big 12 doesn't act soon and scarf up the LDS coffers (BYU), the PAC 12 will kick out CU and pick up BYU. That is a more sensible trade for them. CU is not a power conference school now that the State Gov. has been systematically defunding the system to pay for K-12 ed.
Actually, A&M specifically said that the relationship with UT and the rest of the conference was one reason it left. That and Johnny Foo'ball could get them into the SEC. Colorado is no loss and they will get kicked out of the PAC 12 eventually. If the Big 12 doesn't act soon and scarf up the LDS coffers (BYU), the PAC 12 will kick out CU and pick up BYU. That is a more sensible trade for them. CU is not a power conference school now that the State Gov. has been systematically defunding the system to pay for K-12 ed.
The Pac 12 will never kick out Colorado and they will never add BYU. The Bay Area schools will not vote in favor of religious schools. If the big 12 does disband, look for the Texhoma four to head west to the Pac 12. Many OU and UT fans dislike the conference. On one Texas forum, there is a 800 page thread on realignment with most of it being About Texas leaving and on an OU forum, they are in part 8 on the Sooners wanting out. Honestly, the conference will need OSU and maybe Tech to become household names. If not and the conference still relies on Texas and/or OU to be at the top of their game, the conference demise is inevitable.
I think Bowlsby has been pretty clear that there really are no "big time" teams left to add. All the major programs (and several lucky ones which have no business being in the Power 5) have been consolidated.
The primary reason the Big XII isn't adding teams is none of the remaining teams add any real value. Adding lesser programs will only cut into the profit of the teams already in the Big XII, more mouths to feed etc. with the same/or less amount of money.
I think that the Big XII should add Cincy for West Virginia (which I'm still not a fan of being in the conference) and then possibly UCF strictly for a more secure recruiting footprint in the talent-rich state of Florida.
BYU is just too far west. Houston would be a contender but then that would put 5 of the 12 team conf. from the state of Texas. I'm guessing that the Horns and others don't want another team getting top-flight Texas talent. Tulsa is too small and doesn't show any signs of getting a bigger stadium. Tulane might be discussion worthy, but in reality, it is way too small of a football program (maybe it brings some of the New Orleans market?....no, who am I kidding, LSU has the whole state locked down in terms of TV sets and market.) I can't think of any other teams which really add any value. The Big XII is pretty much screwed because it won't add teams because of the lesser value teams issue and it really NEEDS to add more teams for a better perception nationally.
Before it's all said and done, I think the Big XII brass will regret not adding teams, even if it meant less money/payout per team.
BYU is no further away than W Virginia. I think Cincinnati and BYU are your best bets. Possibly C Florida or maybe Air Force- they are usually pretty compepitive.
BYU is no further away than W Virginia. I think Cincinnati and BYU are your best bets. Possibly C Florida or maybe Air Force- they are usually pretty compepitive.
That's a good point about distance. I wouldn't have any problem with any of those teams from your list above joining the conference. I think Central Florida in particular would be a very good addition to the Big 12. It would be nice to tap into the Florida recruiting pool and if I remember correctly, UCF also recently expanded/upgraded their stadium.
The Pac 12 will never kick out Colorado and they will never add BYU. The Bay Area schools will not vote in favor of religious schools. If the big 12 does disband, look for the Texhoma four to head west to the Pac 12. Many OU and UT fans dislike the conference. On one Texas forum, there is a 800 page thread on realignment with most of it being About Texas leaving and on an OU forum, they are in part 8 on the Sooners wanting out. Honestly, the conference will need OSU and maybe Tech to become household names. If not and the conference still relies on Texas and/or OU to be at the top of their game, the conference demise is inevitable.
That realignment thread is only 788 pages. Been lurkin' on The Shaggy?
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