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That's a good question Finger Laker, and one I don't know the answer to, but grad schools/law schools/med schools, across the board don't care as much where you went to for your undergrad as how well you did at your undergrad.
Prestige is an intangible quality anyway. My husband is an engineer at a small company and when they hire new engineers they always hire from the same local College because that's where the President and the HR person went. My husband is the only engineer in his company that did not go there. I truly believe that getting a job nowadays depends quite a bit on who you know, not where you went to college.
When my now freshman son was weighing his college choices this past Spring, he was keenly interested in the hiring outcomes of the students in his major. He chose his college partly because he found out that 100% of the people in his intended major were employed within a few months of graduation. That was a better outcome then any of the other more well known colleges that he was considering. As a parent paying for that education, it was heartening to us as well!
My husband recruits almost exclusively from a couple liberal arts schools in our area, why, because he knows the faculty at these schools and knows the programs that they offer. He can tell by a quick glance if he wants to talk to a student or not just by looking at the professors they took. If they took all the "easy" professors, circular file. It saves him a LOT of time and effort in the hiring process. It isn't that there aren't other good schools to chose from though.
the med school acceptance rate for ND is 80% - which is pretty high
it's also bigger than most small liberal arts schools - about 9,000 undergrads .... the typical liberal arts school is frequently less than 2,000 - rarely more than 2,500 students
and by no means was I knocking lesser known liberal arts colleges - especially when going onto advanced degrees
I was just curious that if you had two schools with equal prestige, size, etc - why would one be well known and the other not .... that is all.
Notre Dame is well known because it's a premier catholic university, has a long football & athletics tradition and good academics ..... it's also not that small .... it's obviously going to be more well known than a place like Grinnell or Macalester
the med school acceptance rate for ND is 80% - which is pretty high
it's also bigger than most small liberal arts schools - about 9,000 undergrads .... the typical liberal arts school is frequently less than 2,000 - rarely more than 2,500 students
and by no means was I knocking lesser known liberal arts colleges - especially when going onto advanced degrees
I was just curious that if you had two schools with equal prestige, size, etc - why would one be well known and the other not .... that is all.
Notre Dame is well known because it's a premier catholic university, has a long football & athletics tradition and good academics ..... it's also not that small .... it's obviously going to be more well known than a place like Grinnell or Macalester
Like I said, these smaller schools are obviously KNOWN in the the necessary circles and that is what really matters in the long run. Both of the schools I was talking about have about 5000-6000 undergrads. ND has 8300.
what are the lib arts schools that are 5k-6k in students?
even if ND was at 8k it's still quite a bit larger than 5-6k, which is massive for a "small liberal arts" program
i'm not contending that they aren't known in "the necessary circles" - whatever the heck that means, necessary is pretty arbitrary to throw out in a discussion
what i'm questioning is if they are known in necessary circles, have the same # of students and like characteristics down the line - what makes them lesser known? .... why wouldn't they be the more known institution? ... which isn't a question about quality at all, in fact it assumes quality at least equal to others
what are the lib arts schools that are 5k-6k in students?
even if ND was at 8k it's still quite a bit larger than 5-6k, which is massive for a "small liberal arts" program
i'm not contending that they aren't known in "the necessary circles" - whatever the heck that means, necessary is pretty arbitrary to throw out in a discussion
what i'm questioning is if they are known in necessary circles, have the same # of students and like characteristics down the line - what makes them lesser known? .... why wouldn't they be the more known institution? ... which isn't a question about quality at all, in fact it assumes quality at least equal to others
What makes them lesser known, they don't have DI football teams that play on TV every week...
"necessary circles"= medical schools, law schools, various grad schools that KNOW about these schools and those are the ones that matter---not if your neighbor down the street knows of the school where you did your undergrad. College MatchMaker: Results
You can search by college size and liberal arts--there are 219 medium sized 2000-15,000 liberal arts schools around the country.
"Smaller" for me is not state school sized I guess-pretty much anything under 10,000 is "smaller", under 2000 would be small to tiny .
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