Research S how s That Many High Achieving High School Students Do Not Attend College (SAT, teacher)

[jps-teacher]

http://www.gse.harvard.edu/~pfpie/pd...ss-release.pdf

Findings:
a) 7-16% of high achieving students in urban schools do not go to college. Some who do go to less selective colleges. And students who go to less challenging colleges seem more likely to drop out.

b) Some high schools seem to consistently do a better job of preparing students for college than others, when comparing equivalent students from the same 8th grade classes.

c) A large majority of students who have fallen off the high school to college path fell off before 9th grade was done.

Implications for drop out research, implications for education reform, implications for affirmative action, and implications for gifted education.

At a minimum.

[zthatzmanz28]

Could be college has become too commercialized and the brightest and beat are looking to influnec and improve their community, not just regurgitate Big Oil and poison the food supply?

Just a thought.

[Hamish Forbes]

Originally Posted by jps-teacher

http://www.gse.harvard.edu/~pfpie/pd...ss-release.pdf

Findings:
a) 7-16% of high achieving students in urban schools do not go to college. Some who do go to less selective colleges. And students who go to less challenging colleges seem more likely to drop out.

I looked at the attachment, but didn't see any definition of high-achieving students (what SAT range are they talking about? -- I think that urban-school GPA is just about meaningless), nor did I see any comparable benchmark for suburban schools to serve as a point of reference.

Interesting that the headline would be 7-16% do not go to college, rather than 84-93% do go to college.

[rational1]

I read another version of this story somewhere else. The take-home message was that SOME highly promising inner city/ minority/ poor students were not making the decision to go to college even though they appeared to have the potential to do so.

[bluedevilz]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

Could be college has become too commercialized and the brightest and beat are looking to influnec and improve their community, not just regurgitate Big Oil and poison the food supply?

Just a thought.

And yet, as Hamish has already pointed out 84-93% of the "brightest and best" are going on to college apparently so they can "regurgitate Big Oil and Poison the food supply"

Because, as we all know, the 7-16% of the "best and brightest" who go on to flip burgers at McD's are generally contributing much more to the world at large.

Just a thought.....

[joe from dayton]

The paper doesn't address what this percentage of students who don't immediately go to college do. It wants to leave you with the assumption that they all become losers. College isn't for everyone and it certainly isn't for everyone right out of HS. Some of them certainly join the military while others probably go to trade school. A good welder, plumber or electrician can make a nice living without ever setting foot inside the halls of academia.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by jps-teacher

http://www.gse.harvard.edu/~pfpie/pd...ss-release.pdf

Findings:
a) 7-16% of high achieving students in urban schools do not go to college. Some who do go to less selective colleges. And students who go to less challenging colleges seem more likely to drop out.

b) Some high schools seem to consistently do a better job of preparing students for college than others, when comparing equivalent students from the same 8th grade classes.

c) A large majority of students who have fallen off the high school to college path fell off before 9th grade was done.

Implications for drop out research, implications for education reform, implications for affirmative action, and implications for gifted education.

At a minimum.

I wouldn't consider 7% as "many" which is what you are saying. Even 1educ6% leaves the strong majority still continueing their education. So, this study, survey, whatever you want to call it means about nothing. What are they basing the term "high acheiver" on, is it GPA, which means little if a kid is attending a school in a district with a very low acheivement level, does it mean SAT tests, just what? Any survery or study can prove anything to those who want to believe it..

Of course I think it also important for all of us to accept, regardless of a persons achievemments, a lot of kids do not belong in colelge.

[joe from dayton]

^^^I was also disappointed that Harvard thinks up to 16% is 'many' when it clearly is not.