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Old 03-25-2013, 11:54 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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In my field most employers count the MS as a BS with 2 years experience. The job ads will read BS with 5 years experience or MS with 3.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Hello,

I am about to graduate this semester with a BA in international business and marketing, unfortunately I don't have any real-work experience just had an 2-month internship last summer, however I have an opportunity to continue on a cheap discounted tuition to get an master of science degree in marketing only and I have to do it right after I get my BA and it has to be done in 1 year, so I was wondering in my situation would it be more beneficial to work and get more experience or go ahead and accept this opportunity, if so why?

Thanks in advance guys
Education and experience are two different things, don't confuse the two. There is no choice between which is better, it always depends on the job you want. Someone factoring equations doesn't need experience, they need education. Someone in marketing for example, needs experience and whatever education needed as a requirement to get the job.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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I think you should work in marketing first and see if you actually WANT to work in Marketing before you waste a year of your time/money.

Just my two cents.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Hello,

I am about to graduate this semester with a BA in international business and marketing, unfortunately I don't have any real-work experience just had an 2-month internship last summer, however I have an opportunity to continue on a cheap discounted tuition to get an master of science degree in marketing only and I have to do it right after I get my BA and it has to be done in 1 year, so I was wondering in my situation would it be more beneficial to work and get more experience or go ahead and accept this opportunity, if so why?

Thanks in advance guys
As someone who has accumulated years of experience and an MBA, I would counsel you to prioritize experience first.

In the business world, you see a fair amount of people with little insight who hide behind degrees and certifications. It all comes down to whether you can make an analysis work, present it, get people to agree with your recommendations, and move forward. Experience is the primary lever for achieving that; you won't get it through more theoretical knowledge. Advanced theoretical knowledge has its value, too, but it becomes more useful to you after you have a foundation of experience upon which to interpret and contextualized it. This is why most good MBA programs do not take people who don't have a good 3-5 years of work experience. And it's also why you have people with MBAs who go nowhere and some other people, like my wife, who are managing manager by their early 30s with only an undergrad degree. She has developed a toolkit that comes through practical, battle-tested experience in multiple companies that can't be replicated in a classroom environment.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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The answer that I have to offer is that it depends on the situation.

If you can finish your masters in 1 year at a discounted rate, I'd say go for it. However, keep in mind that when you go for that first job and you have next to no experience, that masters will only give you a leg up on people with a bachelors and no experience.

Regardless, it WILL likely pay for itself later. I would not expect your very first career job to pay you too much extra for that masters. However, if you get good at what you do - spend about 3-5 years in that industry and then jump elsewhere. Masters + 3 to 5 years experience will be a boon when you land a job at a different company.

Think long-term.

Besides! As many can likely tell you, once you leave the academic world and start your job going back to academics to get your masters while working full-time is very difficult. I'd take advantage of your situation and get the masters done.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:41 AM
 
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I am currently getting my masters while holding down a job in my desired career field. IMO you need both to make it and stand out. You cant sacrifice one or the other. Students in my masters program who roll right out of undergrad into grad with no stop to find a applicable job in this market, are the ones struggling once they graduate. Those who take a year or two between to become established and gain experience while obtaining their masters, are the ones that succeed.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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Hello,

I am about to graduate this semester with a BA in international business and marketing, unfortunately I don't have any real-work experience just had an 2-month internship last summer, however I have an opportunity to continue on a cheap discounted tuition to get an master of science degree in marketing only and I have to do it right after I get my BA and it has to be done in 1 year, so I was wondering in my situation would it be more beneficial to work and get more experience or go ahead and accept this opportunity, if so why?

Thanks in advance guys
There is really no need to get a Masters in marketing unless you already have years of experience and have hit a ceiling and need it for promotion, or want to work in a management position. If you feel the price is worth it, then go for it. However, without actual work experience do not expect to use the degree for some time. Unless you attend a top university, the Masters will be overlooked, or may even hurt you, until you get some experience.

Does the program require an internship?
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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When I was hiring entry level college grads, a Master's degree was at best a tie breaker and was worth $0-$5k in salary. Relevant internships or work experience were much more important. And honestly the "fit" or maturity and personality of the individual were most important once the basic education and experience requirements were met - I needed people who were analytical, could work independently and in teams, and who had a solid work ethic. A master's degree could be helpful if it provided an opportunity for additional practical work in the field or gave them other relevant experience which they could articulate in an interview.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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People with 4 year degrees are a dime a dozen not advanced degrees. Even saying 4 year degrees are a dime a dozen is a huge stretch. More like 1/3'ish of the US pop 25 and older has a BS/BA. And around 1/10th to 1/20th have an advanced degree. It varies by state. A few states have a crazy amount of advanced degree holders thou. But the majority do not.
According to one recent study, 48% of the people who have Bachelors degrees are working in fields that require less education than a Bachelors degree. See:

Underemployment of College Graduates

Why Did 17 Million Students Go to College? - Innovations - The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://www.centerforcollegeaffordabi...o_Wal-Mart.pdf

We even have an oversupply of PhD scientists, many of whom end up underemployed or underemployed-and-involuntarily-out-of-field. We also have a large oversupply of people with professional degrees such as JDs (law degree) and MBAs.

Is America's Science Education Gap Caused By Career Planning Fears?

I hope you'll read some of those articles and question the dogma that higher education, especially graduate and professional education, almost always provides a worthwhile return-on-investment. Oftentimes it just results in years of lost opportunity costs, being overqualified and unemployable for jobs in other fields, and onerous student loan debt that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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Hardly the truth. It's not that black and white. There's plenty of scenarios where graduate level education trumps experience.
I can't think of too many where the education would trump having white collar experience in the field. If needed, someone could go tack on a degree later after they have secured employability and white collar experience. It's much easier to earn an advanced degree than it is to obtain and successfully maintain a white collar job.
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