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View Poll Results: Colleges should eliminate most General Education requirements so the students can concentrate on the
Yes 5 11.63%
No 34 79.07%
Maybe cut down the Liberal Arts General Education requirements to just a few classes 4 9.30%
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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college students are adults not children this is an example how colleges initializes people
Could you clarify that?
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:11 PM
 
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Typically those classes are 1 or 2 credits. Essentially the gym requirement.
No they're not. And there is no gym requirement.
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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Most of it is junk science, half the so called studies published in the field cannot even be reproduced. The whole notion of that you can treat the human mind like a simple computer program and predict behavior is arrogant. I could never stand the subject and never took it. I dropped the one class I tried to take after the second class, it hurt my mind as a scientist.
The intro to psychology classes, personnel management, and the like are not about treatment. They're about understanding what motivates people, understanding different psychological types or profiles, to better understand how to communicate effectively with people, and to be able to recognize to some extent symptoms of personality disorders when encountering them in life. In part, it's about understanding the roots of the human condition.
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Old 07-16-2019, 07:04 PM
 
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No they're not. And there is no gym requirement.
Many schools have a gym requirement... And also a few 1 credit classes unrelated to the program.
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Old 07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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A relative of mine is an Accounting Major in a four year College Degree Program. He just completed his 2nd Year and will be a Junior this Fall. He said his first two years of college were basically a waste because it involved taking mostly the required Liberal Arts General Education classes. He only was able to take two Business classes due to the heavy requirement to take liberal arts classes his first two years of college. He got good grades and studied hard in these "fluff classes" so he could get into the business school and impress potential employers, but he considered the classes to be a waste of time and money.
The idea was that taking certain courses outside of one's major helped them to become a more well-rounded person, knowledgeable about other cultures, the arts, music, foreign languages, etc. These might be helpful for someone who wants to become a sophisticated business person who travels for work. If someone feels these courses are simply a waste, perhaps trade school would be a better choice for them.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:49 AM
 
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This is all fine and well if college tuition costs had not and did not continue to skyrocket.

“Learning to think” now must include being smart enough to not fall for the con.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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The idea was that taking certain courses outside of one's major helped them to become a more well-rounded person, knowledgeable about other cultures, the arts, music, foreign languages, etc. These might be helpful for someone who wants to become a sophisticated business person who travels for work. If someone feels these courses are simply a waste, perhaps trade school would be a better choice for them.
This. Aren't there still business schools? If people can't afford a 4-year college degree, and have no interest in a well-rounded education, they can go to community college or a business school or other trade program. Problem solved! The university system shouldn't be dismantled, just because some people have a very narrow focus, and don't want their perspective broadened, and don't want to pay for that broader education.

OTOH, state legislatures' abandonment of supporting higher education is deplorable, IMO, and that's one main reason behind the runaway costs at public universities. What are the state governments doing, with all the money that used to go to support public universities and colleges in their state? How is that money being re-allocated? Sounds partly like poor management of state funds, to me, though a growing pension burden for state workers probably plays a role.

Would y'all be ok with higher taxes, to restore a measure of funding to state universities?
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Would y'all be ok with higher taxes, to restore a measure of funding to state universities?[/quote]

Just a soon as a full audit of the bloated team of administrators is conducted, unnecessary bureaucrats are removed, and salaries are capped.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Would y'all be ok with higher taxes, to restore a measure of funding to state universities?
Just a soon as a full audit of the bloated team of administrators is conducted, unnecessary bureaucrats are removed, and salaries are capped.[/quote] This, too. And a review of the college presidents' and deans' salaries. That needs to happen in private business, too. If CEO compensation weren't so exaggerated, there would be money available to give workers modest pay increases, like what used to be the norm.
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Colleges do not sell education. They sell credentials. One can learn any way, any time, any place, but without credentials, one cannot comply with labor laws.
As to the minimum requirement versus specialized training, again, apples and orangutans.
Personally, I'd prefer a combination of apprenticeship and inexpensive examinations for credentials, and eliminate the cost of college entirely.
Just like a Physician's License doesn't guarantee competency (or why else have malpractice torts), a college degree guarantees nothing beyond the holder complying with the existing rules at the time.
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