How are college athletes so consistently successful in academics? (bachelors, degrees, veterinary)
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I was a TA at the university of Minnesota in the 1970s. I TA'ed a special section of college football players in an Introductory Social Science Course as a grad student. Many were functionally illiterate. I was told by the class prof. to pass everyone, except in the most exceptional circumstances. I objected and all hell broke loose, including an interview with the coach, Murray Warmath.
No doubt these are extreme type A personalities. To excel on that level of sports is much harder in my mind than to accomplish what they did academically, but still we're talking about people who probably get up at 6 am every day of their lives and never touch alcohol, etc.
Some of the people commenting on this thread would likely have an eyeopening experience trying to teach some of these "scholars." Division-1 football and basketball are the problems. To this day I just about gag when I hear someone call the financial-aid packages "scholarships." Yes, there are occasional exceptions. But kids who play minor (non-revenue) sports generally do just fine, and are often above-average students, at least in my experience.
Some of the people commenting on this thread would likely have an eyeopening experience trying to teach some of these "scholars." Division-1 football and basketball are the problems. To this day I just about gag when I hear someone call the financial-aid packages "scholarships." Yes, there are occasional exceptions. But kids who play minor (non-revenue) sports generally do just fine, and are often above-average students, at least in my experience.
"scholarship" doesn't mean just academic endeavors though..it's about being rewarded for a talent--sports, academics, music, etc.
Some of the people commenting on this thread would likely have an eyeopening experience trying to teach some of these "scholars." Division-1 football and basketball are the problems. To this day I just about gag when I hear someone call the financial-aid packages "scholarships." Yes, there are occasional exceptions. But kids who play minor (non-revenue) sports generally do just fine, and are often above-average students, at least in my experience.
D1 Basketball and Football scholarships are, in fact, scholarships.
"scholarship" doesn't mean just academic endeavors though..it's about being rewarded for a talent--sports, academics, music, etc.
One important difference that sets apart D1 football and basketball "scholars" from other recipients of scholarships is widespread functional illiteracy as mentioned above. Kids who receive scholarships for, say, music or art are expected to be able to do college-level work. Not so in any meaningful sense for D1 football and basketball at many big-time-sports schools, who are frequently little more than thugs. Yes, there are individual exceptions, of course.
One important difference that sets apart D1 football and basketball "scholars" from other recipients of scholarships is widespread functional illiteracy as mentioned above. Kids who receive scholarships for, say, music or art are expected to be able to do college-level work. Not so in any meaningful sense for D1 football and basketball at many big-time-sports schools, who are frequently little more than thugs. Yes, there are individual exceptions, of course.
Yes. They are paid athletes masquerading as students. This controversy has been discussed ad nauseum in sports talk circles.
Most have argued we should just pay top college football and basketball players so that we can end the silly act of them going to class and pretending to be students, and them hiding the acceptance of gifts, gimmies, and favors.
No doubt these are extreme type A personalities. To excel on that level of sports is much harder in my mind than to accomplish what they did academically, but still we're talking about people who probably get up at 6 am every day of their lives and never touch alcohol, etc.
Peyton Manning??? SAT 1030! That's hardly "standout" level! ". . .speech communication (minor in business), 3.61." When I was in college (D1) the football players were mostly majoring in business. I've been told there are now some easier majors for football players. Listening to him talk on TV, he doesn't sound bright. As my friend said, he's probably had a lot of concussions.
Peyton Manning??? SAT 1030! That's hardly "standout" level! ". . .speech communication (minor in business), 3.61." When I was in college (D1) the football players were mostly majoring in business. I've been told there are now some easier majors for football players. Listening to him talk on TV, he doesn't sound bright. As my friend said, he's probably had a lot of concussions.
That's true. I noticed that too. Those aren't exactly standout accomplishments. But I wouldn't say it means he's dumb.
I think the funny thing to me is that the SAT is a standardizer. With the majors, even at an Ivy School, it's hard to tell how much work it took. But if some guy who is a pro athlete got a 1500 on the SAT, I'm like "wow"! Impressive.
Some of these people have inflated their majors, too. "Exercise science" is NOT pre-med, for ex (Myron Rolle). Regarding MCAT scores, a score of 30 is considered competitive, not 28 as the article stated regarding Craig Breslow. MCAT Score and GPA - Important for Medical School Application and Admissions process
Lots of business and marketing majors.
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