UNC is a scam (graduated, requirements, majors, admissions)
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My son had to do this for engineering. And between the time he declared his intended specialty of agricultural, he changed his mind to mechanical and wasn't sure the switch was going to fly at all, but fortunately, he was admitted to mechanical after finishing the appropriate prerequisites. He is going to graduate in the Spring and feels very confident he chose the right career for him. I honestly don't know what he would have done if he had not advanced into engineering. It's all he ever wanted to do. But I feel like the kids who were really working hard did get in. The ones who were struggling didn't and that's probably how it should be.
I also wanted to add that my kids went to a college prep private school and jumped through loads of hoops to make themselves attractive applicants for universities. It felt like a very heavy load, but it was nothing compared to being in college and really nothing compared to the requirements for getting into grad school. My daughter just got word she was admitted into a very competitive grad program and she worked her a** off to get a spot. It made high school look like a day off. Just preparing you...
I heard something like that about U Dub. A lot of people want to be math majors, but there aren't enough spots, so some people have to be physics majors or something. However, I'm not sure if the selection process for specific majors happens at the same time as undergrad admissions or not. In this case it might, though I am not so sure.
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It's not a scam, it's because nursing is a 2-year program, so you can't apply as a freshman.
A BSN from UNC or anywhere is a 4 yr degree tho ...you’re thinking of a community college when it’s 2 yrs. Like any bachelor’s degree...you have to take general studies & all your requirements first. They base whether to admit you on your GPA.
O.P....this is super common AND it’s not a scam...tho you express interest in the department or area of study you want when you are accepted at the school. You are likely to get in as long as you do well because you were already accepted to the university.
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Originally Posted by Shalop
However, I'm not sure if the selection process for specific majors happens at the same time as undergrad admissions or not.
A BSN from UNC or anywhere is a 4 yr degree tho ...you’re thinking of a community college when it’s 2 yrs. Like any bachelor’s degree...you have to take general studies & all your requirements first. They base whether to admit you on your GPA.
O.P....this is super common AND it’s not a scam...tho you express interest in the department or area of study you want when you are accepted at the school. You are likely to get in as long as you do well because you were already accepted to the university.
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I think a lot of it does.
The first two years are general requirements, then you apply to the school of nursing for the last two years from what I understand. It sounds like the school reserves those spots for people who did the first two years at UNC.
I graduated from Thomas Jefferson University with a bachelors in occupational therapy, however I did my first two years at community college and then you enter the occupational therapy school as a junior. But Jefferson doesn’t have general studies for the pre-reqs, you have to transfer in. It sounds like UNC nursing is similar except you do the pre-areas there too.
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The first two years are general requirements, then you apply to the school of nursing for the last two years from what I understand. It sounds like the school reserves those spots for people who did the first two years at UNC.
It’s like any bachelor’s degree tho....you have requirements & general studies but with nursing there is more of an order to take the classes. I applied after my freshman year because I wasn’t sure what I was going to do. At some schools if you declare your major right away, they will accept you right away with a spot open....AND..some nursing classes & lectures are larger than others. If you’re unable to complete a class, there is a summer school option. Clinicals are small & broken up between different hospitals. All it means is that the clinical rotation part doesn’t start until your 3rd year because there are too many specific requirements before that, not just general studies....you have to take biology, anatomy, chemistry, physiology, & intro to pharmacology before. Some of those classes won’t transfer depending on the school...so most take it at the same school. I have a BSN. So..I was just saying that a BSN is not a 2 yr program...it’s a 4 yr degree. An AAS in nursing is a 2 yr program.
UNC is a 4 yr university so I am sure they offer a BSN.
It’s like any bachelor’s degree tho....you have requirements & general studies but with nursing there is more of an order to take the classes. I applied after my freshman year because I wasn’t sure what I was going to do. At some schools if you declare your major right away, they will accept you right away with a spot open....AND..some nursing classes & lectures are larger than others. If you’re unable to complete a class, there is a summer school option. Clinicals are small & broken up between different hospitals. All it means is that the clinical rotation part doesn’t start until your 3rd year because there are too many specific requirements before that, not just general studies....you have to take biology, anatomy, chemistry, physiology, & intro to pharmacology before. Some of those classes won’t transfer depending on the school...so most take it at the same school. I have a BSN. So..I was just saying that a BSN is not a 2 yr program...it’s a 4 yr degree. An AAS in nursing is a 2 yr program.
UNC is a 4 yr university so I am sure they offer a BSN.
Yes, but they don't admit freshman into it per OP. You don't have to be in the program to know what the pre-requisites are. I had Jefferson's manual and it listed the pre-requisites required, so I knew I had the right classes. They don't offer the pre-reqs at Jefferson, you have to apply from a different school. It's only a medical school and allied health school. But you still graduate with a Bachelor's even though you're only there for 2 years (plus 6 months of clinical). It sounds like UNC operates similarly, i.e. you can't apply for the nursing program as a freshman but have to wait until you finish the 2 years of pre-reqs, but even though you're only in the nursing program specifically for 2 years, it's still a Bachelor's.
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How is it a 'scam' if they tell you upfront the way things are going to be?
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Yes, but they don't admit freshman into it per OP. You don't have to be in the program to know what the pre-requisites are. I had Jefferson's manual and it listed the pre-requisites required, so I knew I had the right classes.
Um...you have to do more than look at a manual for nursing, because there are all different classes of biology, microbiology, physiology and anatomy for nursing....AND you have to have a signature to sign off on the limited classes offered specifically for the nursing program through the department head. The only way they can do that is to know you have declared nursing as a major...so even tho you aren’t officially entered into until sophomore or junior year, you have to know before to take your requirements.
It’s like every major tho...you have to do well to continue ofc. It doesn’t make UNC a scam...so the O.P. makes no sense IMO.
Well, they created fake classes for some of their athletes and included a few non-athletes, which I guess worked for them.
But ya, UNC created fake classes, with fake grades.
What else needs to be said?
Total sham and a middle finger in the face of higher EDU around the country and world.
Probably every big football/basketball college does similar. The thread title was referring to the school's nursing program, though. There was a movie in the 70's about that, the star basketball player (Robbie Benson) was thinking of dropping out to get a job to help his mom out so the school gave him a job turning on and off the automatic sprinklers, lol.
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