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Old 08-09-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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I supervise professionals who teach college/career readiness programs on a part-time basis in a high school setting.

One of my facilitators is starting a PhD program in clinical psych this fall and will be taking 7 classes/21 credits Monday through Thursday.

He is adamant that he will be available to continue working with my program on Fridays, which would require him to teach 5 classes over the course of a school day.

I worry that this arrangement may overload him and that he will either fall behind in his PhD program or the quality of his work within my program may suffer.

He is also working on developing a new phone app as a long-term entrepreneurial venture with several partners.

He is very well-liked within the school/organization and could certainly use the extra cash infusion, so I don't want to pull him out of my program unless deemed absolutely necessary for his overall well-being.

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I'd like to get some insight from people who are familiar with the workload of a first semester/first year PhD program.

Based on the information shared, do you believe that it would be feasible for my facilitator to continue working or would he likely need Fridays for school work/rest/other ventures?
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It's normal for PhD students to be active in sports, music, volunteering, travel, dating, sometimes even have children. Many grad students also need to work as teaching assistants at the university.

But it is unusual to take 7 classes all at once.

For a normal course load of 3 or 4 classes, I see no problem at all.

The person to stop him from taking 7 classes would be his academic advisor.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:01 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I knew countless teachers/Administrators who worked on their EdDs while teaching full time or, in the case of many of the Administrators not showing up.

So, yes, it's doable.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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I supervise professionals who teach college/career readiness programs on a part-time basis in a high school setting.

One of my facilitators is starting a PhD program in clinical psych this fall and will be taking 7 classes/21 credits Monday through Thursday.

He is adamant that he will be available to continue working with my program on Fridays, which would require him to teach 5 classes over the course of a school day.

I worry that this arrangement may overload him and that he will either fall behind in his PhD program or the quality of his work within my program may suffer.

He is also working on developing a new phone app as a long-term entrepreneurial venture with several partners.

He is very well-liked within the school/organization and could certainly use the extra cash infusion, so I don't want to pull him out of my program unless deemed absolutely necessary for his overall well-being.

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I'd like to get some insight from people who are familiar with the workload of a first semester/first year PhD program.

Based on the information shared, do you believe that it would be feasible for my facilitator to continue working or would he likely need Fridays for school work/rest/other ventures?

A friend of mine is a psych. professor at a school here in town that only awards Ph.Ds. I'll text him about this.



Here's that schools degree plan.

https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/educa...egree-plan.pdf
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:14 PM
 
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I supervise professionals who teach college/career readiness programs on a part-time basis in a high school setting.

One of my facilitators is starting a PhD program in clinical psych this fall and will be taking 7 classes/21 credits Monday through Thursday.

He is adamant that he will be available to continue working with my program on Fridays, which would require him to teach 5 classes over the course of a school day.

I worry that this arrangement may overload him and that he will either fall behind in his PhD program or the quality of his work within my program may suffer.

He is also working on developing a new phone app as a long-term entrepreneurial venture with several partners.

He is very well-liked within the school/organization and could certainly use the extra cash infusion, so I don't want to pull him out of my program unless deemed absolutely necessary for his overall well-being.

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I'd like to get some insight from people who are familiar with the workload of a first semester/first year PhD program.

Based on the information shared, do you believe that it would be feasible for my facilitator to continue working or would he likely need Fridays for school work/rest/other ventures?

Finally got a response. My guy says taking more than 16 hours would require sign-offs from an advisor, every instructor involved and the dean and 21 hours would be totally out of the question unless the prospective student was an attending or academic physician affiliated with the school. In other words someone who has proved they can handle absurd volumes of work - "advanced education by firehose" was his quote.

My guy doesn't think your guy will be able to survive the 21 hours let alone do that and work.

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Old 08-09-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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His Ph.D. program is not your problem.

Focus on supervising the work your employees do for you. If one of them does not meet standards then take appropriate action.

Not knowing anything about the specific program and prior preparation of the student I can't say how silly this idea is. But then, not my problem either.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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7 courses? I’ve never heard of that for PhD students. I guess it may be field-dependent but I don’t see anyone surviving that and working full time.
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