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Old 12-20-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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People who happen to be of European descent, but whose parents, grandparents and great grandparents are born and raised Africans? Or do you have to be 'Black'...whatever that means?
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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People who happen to be of European descent, but whose parents, grandparents and great grandparents are born and raised Africans? Or do you have to be 'Black'...whatever that means?
Interesting question... I'd love to know the answer. However, I'm assuming they mean "Black" because even a white person of African descent will still benefit from white skin privilege. Which is what they're trying to balance out with the scholarship...
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:04 PM
 
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^ I agree. Although technically we all supposedly came from Africa.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:07 PM
 
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Ethnicity is subjective.

Play the game back at them. Whatever you want to be, you are.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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^ I'm pretty certain that if you blatantly lie about your ethnicity and they find out, you're guaranteed to be kicked out.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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^ I'm pretty certain that if you blatantly lie about your ethnicity and they find out, you're guaranteed to be kicked out.
This is very true, but can it be considered a lie if someone's parents are from Africa, regardless of skin color?
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:00 PM
 
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^ I don't believe that would be considered a lie. I was merely responding to the above poster's notion of "whatever you want to be, you are" comment.

The only point of educational institutions asking for this information was/is to provide their particular school with an equally represented student body due to past historical bullying of certain ethnic groups. I can see this part of an application being dissolved in a couple more decades.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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I think if you reject the whole argument- then it doesn't really matter. I'm thinking that a person who applied as an African of European descent would have the birth certificate/passport to prove it.

Personally, I don't think that "affirmative action" should be redressing a racial wrong...I think it's more of an economic disadvantage. Kids who've grown up in poverty need a break, regardless of skin color.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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^ I'm pretty certain that if you blatantly lie about your ethnicity and they find out, you're guaranteed to be kicked out.
It's not a lie.

It's literally open to interpretation. There are white south africans, you know.

Of course it's disingenuous, but then, to many, so is affirmative action. You think a school would touch this issue with a 30 foot pole if they found out? First, they would have no leg to stand on for the aforementioned reason. But more importantly, even if they did they wouldn't have the balls to call anyone out on it.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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I agree that economics should be the big issue here, although in this country that has been closely tied to race or ethnicity.

If it was me I'd just go ahead and apply as African American. If someone brings it up you can point out that yes, your parents are indeed African. It's not really what they're after, but the argument made by schools when it comes to considering race in admissions is that diversity of ethnic/racial backgrounds brings a diversity of opinions to the campus. In that case then yes, I think having African heritage brings something a little different to the table and is justifiable.
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