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Old 03-13-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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Hey all,

I'm currently taking Calculus 2, and failing(the reasons being a combination of it being a difficult course and some laziness on my part). It it still possible for me to pass the class with a 'c' if I do ok on the next exam and the final.(I need a C to pass, not a D). The withdraw date is before the next exam, so I need to decide if I want to risk failing or withdraw now and retake the class.

My main concern is how an F will look on a transcript compared to a Withdrawal. I'm planning on becoming a teacher(certified in secondary english, and hopefully math). Does one look worse that another to potentail employers?

Also, retaking the class will mean taking 19 credits one semester, which would be intense, the normal here is 15.
Just in case you want more details, failing the class wont have any impact on my GPA, scholarships, etc, because I'll be retaking it immediately after, so thats not a concern.

Thanks!
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: in a house
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Hey all,

I'm currently taking Calculus 2, and failing(the reasons being a combination of it being a difficult course and some laziness on my part). It it still possible for me to pass the class with a 'c' if I do ok on the next exam and the final.(I need a C to pass, not a D). The withdraw date is before the next exam, so I need to decide if I want to risk failing or withdraw now and retake the class.

My main concern is how an F will look on a transcript compared to a Withdrawal. I'm planning on becoming a teacher(certified in secondary english, and hopefully math). Does one look worse that another to potentail employers?

Also, retaking the class will mean taking 19 credits one semester, which would be intense, the normal here is 15.
Just in case you want more details, failing the class wont have any impact on my GPA, scholarships, etc, because I'll be retaking it immediately after, so thats not a concern.

Thanks!
It will if you're receiving a Pell Grant.....
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:45 PM
 
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Also, retaking the class will mean taking 19 credits one semester, which would be intense, the normal here is 15.
Just in case you want more details, failing the class wont have any impact on my GPA, scholarships, etc, because I'll be retaking it immediately after, so thats not a concern.
Yes, it will impact your GPA!

If you fail the class, that class will appear on your transcript and the grade you receive will be used in calculating your grade point average. An F will pull your GPA down. Neither the course nor the grade will ever be stricken from your transcript. That is the entire point of a transcript--to serve as a record of your academic career.

If you retake the class, it will also appear on your transcript, and the grade you receive will also be used in calculating your grade point average. If you do better the second time around, it will pull your GPA back up from the previous F. But it does not overwrite the previously failed course.

If you withdraw and then retake it, both classes will appear on your transcript but only the second attempt will affect your GPA.

Personally, I would withdraw. Rarely does a student change their fortunes on a final exam from failing to a C.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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I have never heard of an individual grade affecting employment, let alone an employer even checking, but I am sure that someone will tell you otherwise.

A 'W' will not have an effect on your GPA or financial aid. A 'C' certainly will have an effect on you GPA, but not necessarily on financial aid as long as your overall GPA is satisfactory.

If you stick out the course and do get a C, it would be best to just let it ride and move on. If you stick it out and fail, retaking the course -if even for just a C- will look a heck of a lot better than a W and not retaking it.

If you apply to grad school, you will more than likely be asked why you withdrew from the course, and possibly, why you did not retake it. Even if you fail and retake the course, you still might have to explain why you failed the first time. Ideally, you would pass the course with the minimum satisfactory grade - at the least - but, like I said, it will look better if you rebounded from your F (or W) and enrolled into the course again for another try.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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If you retake the class, it will also appear on your transcript, and the grade you receive will also be used in calculating your grade point average. If you do better the second time around, it will pull your GPA back up from the previous F. But it does not overwrite the previously failed course.
Yes, both grades will appear on the transcript, however, how it factors into GPA is up to the school.

Some schools will drop the grade points from the first attempt, and only use the grade points from the second grade to (re)calculate the GPA; even if the second grade is lower.

Some schools will use the grade points from the higher grade and drop the grade points from the lower score regardless of whether the higher grade was from the first, second (or sometimes third) attempt.

And in some schools both grades will be used in calculation of GPA.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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Thanks so much for your advice!! Also,

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Yes, both grades will appear on the transcript, however, how it factors into GPA is up to the school.

Some schools will drop the grade points from the first attempt, and only use the grade points from the second grade to (re)calculate the GPA; even if the second grade is lower.

Some schools will use the grade points from the higher grade and drop the grade points from the lower score regardless of whether the higher grade was from the first, second (or sometimes third) attempt.

And in some schools both grades will be used in calculation of GPA.
At my school, only the second grade is used in the final GPA, although both grades are left on the transcript.
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Old 03-13-2010, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado Plateau
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I got a C the first time I took Calc II, so I retook it for grade improvement. I then got a B. My school also only uses the latest grade. On my transcript the first attempt at Calc II says C, then E, for excluded from GPA.

(I also had the same thing happen in Calc I, got C, retook for an A.) Those were the only classes I took twice!

If you can, stay in the class and try to pass it. Go visit the prof every week for help. Then when you retake it you'll know what to expect the next time around.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: In the north country fair
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You should withdraw from the class with a W, then retake it next semester, making sure that you actually pass the course the second time around.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Space Coast
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How low is your grade now compared to the class average?
Honestly, I would just stick it out. Most people who see a W on a transcript will assume it was due to failing anyway.
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