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Old 04-16-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What do you think about this type of education?
There are no a lot of things, including, I suspect --- jobs.
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Old 04-16-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Unless have an ample trust fund, would want skills useful to an employer offering economically and intellectually interesting career opportunities...

Lib arts is a Luddite curriculum in an increasingly data and tech-driven economy where even marketing people need to be able to analyze and interpret vast quantities of real-time data, much of which may be noise or misleading

Notion of wasting time learning foreign languages and cultures is laughable; most workers struggle with basic business English, math/stats/economics/finance/acctg...and clearly never understood opportunity cost

If forced to attend a useless lib arts college like Harvard, would opt for some major like AppliedMath/Statistics....and learn as much Economics/Finance/Accounting/ComputerScience as poss via self-teaching

Not surprising that today's lib arts college curricula, unchanged in ~100yrs, is largely irrelevant in an era where Net is ~15yrs old...and power of Berries/iPhones, mobile computing, massive databases has accelerated in past 5yrs in even the less tech-savvy industries of the business world

Outside of quant-intensive majors, most skills of today's college grads are utterly irrelevant to most employers seeking workers for high-income jobs...even lowly marketing jobs selling targeted ads for google, etc require creative abilities in analyzing stats and business logic...those skills of employees that aren't value-additive are at risk of being automated, outsourced/offshored, commoditized (thanks to creativity of our smartest engineers and financiers, who will personally capture wealth from such labor cost savings by eliminating unskilled, though allegedly college-educated, Luddites)
I don't think you read the original question for one, and, two, I don't think you understand the skills that some liberal arts based majors give students. Princeton is the best undergraduate school in the country and it has no professional degrees for undergrads, and it also happens to produce graduates that are in demand.

Also, at it's core, economics is technically a science. However, I do think it's one of the most useful degrees one could have. I want to clarify that I'm talking about academic economics based in a liberal arts college, not in a business school.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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No specific career goals or job in mind. Just a degree, to have it.
philosophy for sure!
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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What do you think about this type of education?
That is a religious school and its difficult to properly address philosophic matters when you've already convinced of certain things.
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Northeast Ohio
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I am curious, but is proficiency in mathematics and abstract/theoretical thinking something that one is either born with or something one can be taught to become an expert in? I often wonder because it seems like many people either really struggle with these things or they just get it really quickly. Any thoughts?
I'm a straight-A student that is in AP English, AP World Government, & Advanced Bio and yet I am in a remedial math class with a D grade. I have no clue why I don't get anything related to math, and when I suggested to my mother that I may have a learning disability, she freaked and told me that I was "taking the easy way out of studying harder". Which is ridiculous. I always had the feeling that it's not easy for a student to be in AP classes with A's and B's and then struggle to get a passing grade in Math.

But to answer the question, I am in between a Secondary English Education degree, and a Public Relations degree. I may just double major because of how indecisive I am.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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That is a religious school and its difficult to properly address philosophic matters when you've already convinced of certain things.
After reading that page, I don't think the premise of that school's educational philosophy would encourage or promote closemindedness. I could be wrong, I don't know of anyone who has attended that school. But if that was true, the school would be a sham from the start.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Believe it or not, nonreligious people do at times attend church-affiliated colleges. I attended a Lutheran liberal arts college with fairly strong atheist and agnostic contingents. Church-affiliated universities and colleges tend to vary greatly on what the actual affiliation is...in some cases, it's a historical affiliation and there are few or no curriculum requirements involving religious study.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:48 PM
 
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Believe it or not, nonreligious people do at times attend church-affiliated colleges. I attended a Lutheran liberal arts college with fairly strong atheist and agnostic contingents. Church-affiliated universities and colleges tend to vary greatly on what the actual affiliation is...in some cases, it's a historical affiliation and there are few or no curriculum requirements involving religious study.
Yep. Georgetown seems to do ok for being a Jesuit school and all...
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:06 AM
 
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Believe it or not, nonreligious people do at times attend church-affiliated colleges. I attended a Lutheran liberal arts college with fairly strong atheist and agnostic contingents. Church-affiliated universities and colleges tend to vary greatly on what the actual affiliation is...in some cases, it's a historical affiliation and there are few or no curriculum requirements involving religious study.
I agree. I went to a Presbyterian school, and I'm pretty far from that, for sure.

I also got a degree in history and am working on my PhD in history right now. I got an amazing education and wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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A lot recommended philosophy. I get a BA in Philosophy....then what? Who would want me? Which career area would I look into?
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