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Old 04-13-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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This is a pretty technical and odd question, but maybe someone will know.

The official definition of a μSA is an area which has a core city of between 10,000 and 49,999. Silverthorne's population is just over 3,000. How is it the centre of a μSA in that case? All the other μSA centres in Colorado are over 10,000, what makes Summit so special?

Have I misunderstood the definition? Am I missing something?
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Perhaps its because the MSA is over 25,000 people?
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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Perhaps its because the MSA is over 25,000 people?
Well, I don't think so, because MSAs and μSAs are defined by their core populations, and anyway, being over 25,000 as a CBSA is not a requirement.

Thanx for a guess though, sorry to shoot it down. Well, I say shoot it down, you might be right, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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I've just been browsing the μSA list on Wikipedia, and hell, the largest of them, Seaford, DE, has less than 7,000 people and a μSA of close to 200,000.

Are the usual rules ignored when a counties largest city has a really low percentage of it's entire population?
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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I just found this thread again and I was surprised that my question wasn't: Why isn't it now the Breckenridge MSA/μSA now? Breck had the larger population at the census, but do the OMB use different figures?
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I will make another guess. Perhaps Silverthone is the principal city in the MSA.....
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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I don't think I've ever seen an MSA where the principal city wasn't the largest. Why would a city be considered the principal if it wasn't the largest?
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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When the area started if city (A) was the largest and got all the county offices then later another city (city B) in the same county grew and surpassed it all the county services would still be in city (A) thus it would be considered the principal city in the county even though it is no longer the largest city in the county. I would think that scenario would be rare but not impossible and might be the case in Summit county as Breckenridge is more of a resort town for the resort and I think all the county offices are in Silverthorne. To give another example at 945,942 people San Jose is now larger then the city of San Francisco which is 805,235 people but no one calls the MSA the San Jose MSA but it is still referred as the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Well Breckenridge is the county seat, so I would think all the county offices were there? Why do you think they're in Silverthorne? Also, Breckenridge has been a town since 1859 I think and Silverthorne was only incorporated in the 60s so that's make me think Breck has been of significant size for ages, and it was a gold town, so yeah, whereas Silverthorne, well I don't know.

Also, are there even administrative headquarters for an MSA? Obviously in this case the county and MSA are one and the same, but still, even if all the county offices were in Silverthorne, that wouldn't mean officially it couldn't the Breck MSA?
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Well Breckenridge is the county seat, so I would think all the county offices were there? Why do you think they're in Silverthorne? Also, Breckenridge has been a town since 1859 I think and Silverthorne was only incorporated in the 60s so that's make me think Breck has been of significant size for ages, and it was a gold town, so yeah, whereas Silverthorne, well I don't know.
Good points. Since Breckenridge is the county seat I would think the MSA would be called the Breckenridge MSA.

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Also, are there even administrative headquarters for an MSA? Obviously in this case the county and MSA are one and the same, but still, even if all the county offices were in Silverthorne, that wouldn't mean officially it couldn't the Breck MSA?
This is a complicated question. There is no MSA offices unless there is a council on regional governments where they all meet to discuss regional issues. Denver, Colorado Springs and Pueblo have one and I sure the other larger cities in the state do as well.
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