Do you think that the legalization of recreational marijuana will make Colorado a big tourist destination? (home, income)

[jazzlover]

Originally Posted by ditchlights

You ever drink alcohol? How would you like to be terminated from your job for those two glasses of wine you enjoyed at the Olive Garden restaurant with your wife when you were out celebrating your guys' wedding anniversary a week ago?

I don't drink if there is any chance that I will be working before I would have a BAC of 0.0. I like my job and I don't intend to lose it because of drugs or alcohol. And I don't want to work with anyone in my workplace who is impaired on alcohol or drugs.

[ditchlights]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

I don't drink if there is any chance that I will be working before I would have a BAC of 0.0. I like my job and I don't intend to lose it because of drugs or alcohol. And I don't want to work with anyone in my workplace who is impaired on alcohol or drugs.

The point of my post went well over your head. Are you even remotely aware of how long THC remains traceable in the urine? Even the urine of someone who is just an occasional smoker?

[ZER0]

Originally Posted by Mountainbluebear

Could Colorado become the American Amsterdam?

For the next 5 months...perhaps. However. Washington state is legalizing in June. Those are the leader states doing it. In the next 2 years we'll see a lot more legalizing and I think by 2020 marijuana will most likely be legalized for the entire USA.

[ZER0]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

And I don't want to work with anyone in my workplace who is impaired on alcohol or drugs.

Do you worry about that now? No?? Then I highly doubt it'll be a legitimate concern in the future.

[alostbard]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

I don't drink if there is any chance that I will be working before I would have a BAC of 0.0. I like my job and I don't intend to lose it because of drugs or alcohol.

ditchlights said "a week ago", referring to the fact that THC can still be detectable in the blood stream for days, even weeks after consuming cannabis, even though the effects have long worn off. If alcohol worked this same way, and you work every week, then you would never drink since you would always be at risk of losing your job. Ergo, you drink alcohol because you can change your consciousness without threatening your income.

[alostbard]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

And I don't want to work with anyone in my workplace who is impaired on alcohol or drugs.

Well, I don't want to work with anyone that constantly pushes their religious and/or political beliefs on me, but there doesn't seem to be a law against that.

If I smoke a bowl of cannabis the night before work, I will not be impaired at work the next day. You really want to try to convince me that someone can get drunk the night before, show up for work the next morning seriously hung over, but is not "impaired"? (even though this person can pass a blood alcohol test!)

[ditchlights]

Originally Posted by alostbard

ditchlights said "a week ago", referring to the fact that THC can still be detectable in the blood stream for days, even weeks after consuming cannabis, even though the effects have long worn off. If alcohol worked this same way, and you work every week, then you would never drink since you would always be at risk of losing your job. Ergo, you drink alcohol because you can change your consciousness without threatening your income.

Thanks bard. I didn't think I needed to go into that much description, but then again, I'm known for often times giving people much more credit than they deserve. I think he knows exactly what I was getting at, though, and arguing with people like that is like trying to talk common sense to a religious fundamentalist.

[alostbard]

Originally Posted by ditchlights

Thanks bard. I didn't think I needed to go into that much description, but then again, I'm known for often times giving people much more credit than they deserve. I think he knows exactly what I was getting at, though, and arguing with people like that is like trying to talk common sense to a religious fundamentalist.

Simple minds require simple words to understand simple concepts.

[GJJG2012]

Narcs can even smoke it on the job, like when they are wanting to be trusted as a non-narc, to make a purchase, they smoke it to get the trust of the person they plan to arrest. The retired narc who told about that said when he retired, he realized his whole squad in their lifetime could not seize as much cocaine as the CIA could bring in with 1 plane. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, very interesting reading.

Saw a police job listed on internet, a city of 20K-30K or so, mid-Atlantic state, said to be considered no heavy marijuana use, e.g. 10+ times in past 2 years.

I have a book edited by Telluride Sheriff Bill Masters, it's The New Prohibition: Voices of Dissent Challenge the Drug War. I heard a guy on KOA-850 several years back that was running for sheriff somewhere in CO & made it known he favored legalization & wouldn't mind a debate.

I've known people with incomes up to $50K+ that use cannabis, working at big corporations. Heavy drinkers are probably a bigger risk. Some employers don't care what you do in your free time, as long as you show up on time & not impaired & can do the job. Most think it wrong to punish the harmless.

Some people still believe in the freedoms our Founding Fathers wanted us to have. Many may come to CO in part to show support for more freedom. I don't expect CO to lose any tourist business. Online polls show up to 96% say cannabis should be legal for all adults. People would like cops better if they were for legalization. I suppose they fear loss of employment if it is legalized? I really don't know since they refuse to say. But in some areas some of the fees & taxes go to police & they seem pleased.

Originally Posted by jazzlover

For many, if not most higher wage jobs being drug-free is important. In the industry where I now work, where most of the bigger employers have wages are generally in the $50K-$150K per year range, zero drug tolerance is not only policy, for most job descriptions, it is a statutory requirement. So, go ahead and toke up--it will leave fewer applicants to compete for the jobs in my industry.

[highplainsrus]

I would have thought by now that the prohibitionist arguments and premises would have evolved a little further, but maybe I give them too much credit. They are content with "save the children" and "get a job" and "stinky smell" appealing to fewer and fewer voters. at least, "get a haircut" has gone away.

By the time WA is up and running, CO prices will have dropped, many shops converted, PW "gardens" will be open and the weather will be nicer up here. there will be a short window of locally-owned entrepreneurs reaping their rewards before the corporations buy them out and take over. that's already happening with edibles (i.e. Dixie Elixirs). by then, the tourism boards will figure out how to keep cannabis tourists around long enough to drain their bank accounts (ala gaming). CO cannabis tourism will be a strong industry segment for some time to come.