07-24-2015, 12:50 PM
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My son I are seriously considering retiring to Colorado and dragging my hubby with us. I have family that lives in Denver but I don't want to live close by.
We live in the foothills of the Appalachian Mts, so we are used to cold and seeing hills. In fact that is one of the main draws for CO. HILLS !!! I have to have my hills, see hills -- not flat land. My Irish and Welsh ancestry wants to know, where are you going to run and hide to fight back if there are no hills, trees, and such?
Our weather here for us? Winters negatives at night, minus single digits and daytime low teens. Wind chill factors feel as if it is 20-40 below zero. Some snow, but most is sleet, which gives us that wonderful black ice. Not nice to run into when you are driving up the hills with no guard rails.
Summers -- Today is going to be nice, temps 86 with humidity at only 48 percent. July and August is when it gets hot, high 90s to low 100s with humidity in 90s percentile.
I am tired of $600 - 700 electric bills in winter and summer months. Only spring and fall does it drop to around 400 for a 2300 sq. ft. house.
We don't party, are stay at home types, I have mobility problems so no more hiking, camping, biking or horseback riding for me (and I MISS that)and our son is disabled. Our village is pop of 3,000 approx., so no more than 18,000 is what we want. Would like to be able to see the mountains, so hope to find a house we can afford, around $150,000 or less that will give us a nice view.
What are the real temps and humidity there? How do they compare? What are the safer (and quiet) areas of the towns? We don't leave home much and our terrier WILL bite if someone comes in without are okaying it. The monster would pester a thief to be petted. But we still do not want to live near the druggies, drunks and such. Which town would be best?
I hate it here, no family left here for either of us to stay for, hubby is hesitant but our son and I have approx. nine months to talk him into moving; his rehab will be finished (two torn shoulder rotor cuffs) by then.
07-24-2015, 01:19 PM
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$150,000 and a mtn view will be quite tough. Some chance in Poncha Springs but very unlikely in Salida itself. Delta or Cedaredge some chance. Montrose tougher. Mountain views easy from Poncha Springs. More distant in Delta than Cedaredge. But a drive up Grand Mesa would be about the easiest way to see high country without exertion. All three places are basically flat til you get to the mountains themselves. You might not like Delta especially if you don't want flat outside your window and for 30 miles or more. For Cedaredge it will be flat for 10 miles in one direction, more in the others. Poncha Springs flat for 3-5 miles. Visit before you make decision.
That electric bill seems incredibly high to me. But Colorado is colder in winter so you might pay more without better / more effective conservation efforts. Summer humidity is a lot lower. But if you still flick on air conditioning, you'll pay.
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07-24-2015, 03:15 PM
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Electric is high here and we have an old house with lousy insulation, high ceilings and half of the windows are single pane. The original owner had them all custom made and so it will cost us a lot of money to replace them. We have discussed remodeling the house but the money we would put into it we would never get back.
I won't be able to look at nothing but flat land. If I can see off in the distance hills, it would be okay. We went on a vacation once in Ohio and the land was flat as far as you could see; neither my husband or I could stand it, we were glad to go home to our hills. For those who are used to the Rockies, they would laugh at our hills, but to those who live in flat areas, they think they are big. Perceptions are created by environment of what is big and what is small.
Cost of living is one thing I need to find out about. Hubby put gas in the car and it was $2.53 a gal, bread is $2.48, hamburger (93% lean) is $4.89 lb, dozen of eggs is around $2.50, not sure of the exact amount.
Definitely will visit before we make a final decision. At the least I will be able to visit my brother, nieces and great-nephew.
07-24-2015, 03:55 PM
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Do a search there are a lot of threads here about Delta and Montrose.
Cliffnotes -
Delta is a small (10,000 population at 4,900ft) farming town with ZERO employment. Main Street is nicely landscaped and pretty. Summer temps stay in the upper 90's to 100 degrees, winters from zero to in the 40's. It does snow, but that melts the next day or so. The Grand Mesa at 11,000 feet is about 30 miles away. There's a Walmart. That's pretty much it. A nice lake and park in town. The new Maverick gas station was a big deal.
Montrose (about 20,000 population at 5,200ft) is a larger city. Mostly rural farming and ranching with a LOT of political infighting and a huge bullying problem in the schools. It does have major big box stores, very nice well maintained parks, and is close to the San Juan Mountain Range. Black Canyon National Park is a short distance from town. Oh and there are ZERO jobs. Montrose can reach 100 degrees in summer with mildish winters. It does snow, and the side streets are pretty much ignored by the city plows. Traffic can be a nightmare at times.
If humidity reaches 20% people complain. It typically stays very very dry in the single digits.
Cost of living here is expensive. And the boredom factor for kids is very high. Nearest Mall is Grand Junction an hour away.
Please visit first, look around talk to locals. Good luck.
07-24-2015, 05:00 PM
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If you are open to other states, perhaps consider Ruidoso, NM (forested hills in town), Sheridan/Buffalo WY, Spearfish SD, LaGrande OR, Prineville OR, Sandpoint ID or Colville WA. Some of these are more affordable than others but they are the requested size and have very nice hills / mtns in sight from most places.
Maybe Pagosa Springs area (about 12,000 in county). More immediate green hills / mtns than Delta or Montrose. Except when covered deep by snow half the year.
You might like Woodland Park, except for the real estate prices. About 15% of properties are under $150,000. Probably small and older or manufactured.
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07-24-2015, 05:46 PM
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I have been doing a search, but was getting glazed eyes after 10 pages and not finding what I want. Cost of living being one, views, what the people are like, what temps really are.
My home village has pop of less than 3,000 with one gas station, four different pizza places, one good size grocery store that is bad to sell spoiled meat. No public swimming pool, no activities except sports for the kids. On the interstate highway a Wallyworld, Sam's club, Lowes, Gamestop, Tractor supply, and four fast food businesses. We are quite used to a boring lifestyle. As retiring senior citizens, we don't need to worry about jobs and schools.
20% humidity and they complain? I'm ready to trade them places. It is easier to put some moisture on than drown in your own sweat and be exhausted from the heat. A week ago it was 93 degrees and 83 % humidity. And we haven't gotten to our hottest summer time yet. It is 7:35 pm; temp is now down to 85 with 48% humidity and will go to a comfortable 65 tonight. Very light breeze, only 6 mph.
I will continue to do more searching of the threads. My eyes have unglazed now.
07-24-2015, 06:22 PM
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I've been looking into other states, we don't want cold, which we will run into the further north or northwest OR, WA, WY or other cold temp state. NM is one we have considered. CO is where I do have some family; my brother and nieces live in Denver, so close enough to visit but not get into each other hair.
Will continue to look and read posts here to help narrow it down. It will be 9 to 11 months before we should have the settlement on his shoulders and that will help us know how much we can have toward buying a new home. I have plenty of time to learn about all of the different towns.
07-24-2015, 06:31 PM
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Ok. The places I mentioned in Oregon are similar in temperature to Salida though. Riodoso warmer than Delta in winter, cooler in summer.
Lots of weather info here
http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/climsum.html
If you don't want cold, the CO places you picked make more sense than most of rest of state but winters are still colder and longer than the Appalachians.
Pages like this
//www.city-data.com/city/Delta-Colorado.html have some useful info in a sea of other details that go beyond what most want or need.
Another place fairly warm and affordable for Colorado is Walsenberg. Closer to family, cities when wanted. Low hills and mountains behind them outside of town. Much drier than you are used to there or almost anywhere in state. Rye outside of Colorado City is comparatively wet.
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07-24-2015, 07:50 PM
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Thanks, will check it all out. I think it is more the dampness than the coldness that gets to me. When we have the 30s and it is snowing it is kinda nice. But then comes the warm spell that melt the snow and then on top of that the sleet and freezing temps and we black ice.
Dangerous, highways and county roads can be closed at times due to it. And the flooding, lots and lots of flooding.
Just checked a site on climate and such and out of curiosity looked at my home area. Around 160 sunny days and 46 inches of rain.
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Most places in CO will have 30-50% more sunny days and 1/4 to 1/2 the precipitation.
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)