What’s next for Hick? (Denver: assessments, safe, tuition)

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by emm74

I think he's too old to be planning a run in 2024 (he'd be 72) and esp. 2028 (76).

I think he's got a far better shot at taking down Cory Gardner than he does at winning the Democratic presidential nomination. The reality is that at this moment in time, being a (somewhat) older, white, male isn't going to excite the Democratic base.

But I would definitely be happy to see him run for Senate, and frankly, I think if he announced for that sooner rather than later, that would pretty much clear the path of many of the better known likely candidates.

Excellent analysis. I think Hick would be an easy Senate win given his popularity around the state.

[Sir Quotes A Lot]

Originally Posted by emm74

I think he's too old to be planning a run in 2024 (he'd be 72) and esp. 2028 (76).

I think he's got a far better shot at taking down Cory Gardner than he does at winning the Democratic presidential nomination. The reality is that at this moment in time, being a (somewhat) older, white, male isn't going to excite the Democratic base.

But I would definitely be happy to see him run for Senate, and frankly, I think if he announced for that sooner rather than later, that would pretty much clear the path of many of the better known likely candidates.

I agree he'd probably be too old. Not that he wouldn't have the stamina for it (the last pool of presidential candidates were in their late 60s and 70s), but because I think we need younger candidates in general. The Baby Boomers have been surpassed now by Millennials in terms of demographic size. The oldest Millennials are nearing 40. Gen Xers are in their formidable candidate years (aged well, but not too much). We need a fresh perspective that addresses some of the issues of our younger citizens. Dems need to do a better job of recruiting younger candidates. They're still floating the idea of Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders, and Nancy Pelosi was all but guaranteed the House leadership position. God bless 'em, but it's time to pave the way for the next gen.

[emm74]

Originally Posted by Sir Quotes A Lot

I agree he'd probably be too old. Not that he wouldn't have the stamina for it (the last pool of presidential candidates were in their late 60s and 70s), but because I think we need younger candidates in general. The Baby Boomers have been surpassed now by Millennials in terms of demographic size. The oldest Millennials are nearing 40. Gen Xers are in their formidable candidate years (aged well, but not too much). We need a fresh perspective that addresses some of the issues of our younger citizens. Dems need to do a better job of recruiting younger candidates. They're still floating the idea of Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders, and Nancy Pelosi was all but guaranteed the House leadership position. God bless 'em, but it's time to pave the way for the next gen.

Well, I don't have any issues with Nancy Pelosi as speaker, at least for now, although I would not expect her to be the Speaker again if the Dems hold the House in 2020. But I do think she was the only choice for right now - she's damn good at the job and has the necessary mental strength to do it (some say a spine made of steel, others say a different body part made of brass ) At this point, it seems like Hakeem Jeffries is the next in line, so hopefully once the shutdown is over and we get back to the ordinary course of business, she'll start giving him opportunities to raise his profile.

But the others, yes, I'm done with all 3 of them - and I remain a Hillary Clinton supporter and think that absent Comey and Russian interference, she'd be president right now. But I don't want to see her run in 2020, despite that. It is time to move on to the next class of candidates.

[davebarnes]

For President, I am not supporting anyone over the age of 56. It is time for us Boomers and the Oldsters to exit the stage.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by davebarnes

For President, I am not supporting anyone over the age of 56. It is time for us Boomers and the Oldsters to exit the stage.

Same unless the Dems somehow nominate one. I certainly won’t vote for that person in the primary.

[emm74]

My age cut off is a little more flexible - for instance, Amy Klobuchar is 58, and I would not rule her out.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by emm74

My age cut off is a little more flexible - for instance, Amy Klobuchar is 58, and I would not rule her out.

Ha! Maybe I should say no straight white males over 56.

[bluescreen73]

The irony is that both parties could use pragmatic candidates like Hickenlooper. Each party is so concerned with "energizing the base" that they're in a race to the bottom with all the candidates trying to out-demagogue each other. The end result is predictably a clown car full of morons. I'm hopeful that this will eventually lead to a viable third-party to offset the idiocy of the two major parties.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

The irony is that both parties could use pragmatic candidates like Hickenlooper. Each party is so concerned with "energizing the base" that they're in a race to the bottom with all the candidates trying to out-demagogue each other. The end result is predictably a clown car full of morons. I'm hopeful that this will eventually lead to a viable third-party to offset the idiocy of the two major parties.

I think you’re right to some extent, but Hillary was the definition of a pragmatist and couldn’t win in the general. I suspect that had more to do with years of “Clinton baggage” more than her being a pragmatist though. I’d like to see Amy Klobuchar or Kirsten Gillibrand.

[katharsis]

FWIW, I'm a woman (age 65) who had always voted for the Democratic POTUS candidate until 2012, and I think that Hilary's worse problem was Hilary herself. She struck me as being just as arrogant as Trump, although much more "polished" and "political" than he was,, but she alienated moderates such as myself with some of her statements. She didn't seem to realize that she needed more support than just other avowed liberals like herself.

Just my opinion, of course.