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Old 01-27-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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The crime data I am looking at says violent crime in city of Pueblo is 130% higher than national average and proper crime rate is 74% higher.


It is not "the same as other places" with the except of a few worst places. Looking at the issue I saw a local TV story about the release of FBI data showing the very high crime rate and everybody in the story downplayed or denied it including at least one police officer. That has to change, imo.


The crime data used by city-data is the same as what I am seeing elsewhere because they both user FBI data though city-data is a bit outdated //www.city-data.com/city/Pueblo-Colorado.html More than double national average crime rate when violent and property crime rates are combined. Up about 50% from 2002-2016.


Most folks don't feel it directly and there are surely better and worse places in town but the issue is bad and longstanding and needs more and better measures to get it anywhere near the same as most places.


If crime was near average I'd think some of the cited deals might have happened. It might be that some of these groups tried for too many concessions from the city, perhaps considering the city in a disadvantaged position relative to other options on crime (and possibly more). I'd think most developers would persevere if they really wanted to be somewhere. There is a difference between being a desired destination and one you'd consider if you got lots of valuable concessions. Also developers fail to move forward for lots of reasons, often more about them than the locale though a number will blame the locale and use the rejection to try to twist more out of somebody else.
Stats are missleading. If i felt unsafe id move. Plus its improving. The issue was lack of a clear leader. I saw it all the time why i have been pushing for a mayor for over a decade now.
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Old 01-27-2019, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I was at a meeting involving city employees and we were met with a mayoral candidate giving us his spiel about why Pueblo should accept the offer to bring in minor league baseball and a bunch of nice new hotels this little town city-wannabe badly needs.

Pueblo choked again.

Gradisar will not if given the chance.
I agree 100%.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Stats are missleading.
Fake News! lol
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Fake News! lol
Lol funny but not fake missleading. I have family who moved to NYC and love it but laugh at this. They say NYC is much worse then Pueblo but the size ot the metro hides that fact.
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