02-19-2019, 03:52 AM
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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Since the view itself worth the money i don’t get why people shaking their heads when they hear bought unseen.
Also, i don’t mind water rights etc. as it’s not neccesary for construction and i am not a farmer
Because a lot of people who have bought “sight unseen” have been scammed. And people keep asking about the water situation because you seem to think access to water in the valley is no big deal. In the SLV nothing could be further from the truth. There are very good reasons why land down there is abundant and cheap. And it’s not because it’s the find of the century.
02-19-2019, 04:28 AM
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I did mention this but we’re not moving there, maybe will spend 1-2 month a year in there so water stuff simply doesn’t bother me - I can always get water delivered so the water situation from my side is good.
Have you surveyed the water situation?
02-19-2019, 04:38 AM
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Mountainearth - how got people scammed ? As far as i know we got very dry land with great views.
We simply got the land bexause the view itself worth more than what we paid for.
We’re not going to live there only stay for maybe a few month a year - have BBQs, drive to the dunes or national forests around, maybe do some mountaineering.
As for water i don’t want to grow anything so even if i can’t get a well i can get water delivered - would be good if people read my previous posts because it seems everyone is way too obsessed with water here - i can just go to walmart and buy bottled water - we don’t drink tapwater anyways.
02-19-2019, 05:58 AM
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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I understand the you will be buying bottled water for drinking and you won’t be growing anything. Have you thought about how you will shower and use the toilet? How about a composting toilet?
02-19-2019, 07:03 AM
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Water can be well or delivered - both is fine for shower, toilet, cleaning etc. I have no preference.
02-19-2019, 07:08 AM
Location: Southern Colorado
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Started building here in 2010. I've never heard of a dry well in the valley, it sits on top of a gigantic aquifer fed by the 14,000 foot mountain ranges that almost surround the valley. I don't know why people love to lie about the valley but they do it all of the time. I hit water at 70' while drilling to 100' - that is a very common scenario in the Blanca region.
Water is harder to hit, and deeper, as one approaches and drills in the surrounding mountains. Is it still worth it to live in the mountains instead of the flat valley? I think so in spite of living in the flat valley. Everybody that I know in the mountains was successful in drilling for water by the way. But I have heard that some regions are more difficult than others.
The winters are notoriously cold and dry and sunny. Nobody can deny that. The region also has strong winds more often than many would like. Though it seems like the western US tends towards the windy side once one leaves the protective "barrier" of city living.
Blanca has a great Postal Office manager/employee though government closure is always a threat - we could mint a new billionaire, maybe two, with post office privatization. Though I suspect that they ran out of P.O. boxes several years ago. That is a reason to have reasonable access to a group of mail boxes for many.
My place is taxed at commercial rates instead of residential which makes my property taxes five times higher than they should be? Why? I called my pole barn a shop instead of a barn I guess. I blame the youth and inexperience of the property appraiser. I am not commercial at all - I just take care of some aquariums in Denver.
Every lot has a great view and the valley is growing population wise in spite of constant lying by inexperienced "busy bodies".
Having said all that - I do plan to move once again. Why? Because it is not fair to tax me at five times the proper rate because one very inexperienced person decided to call it "commercial". One can challenge their property tax every two years and that is on the agenda this year.
When Colorado legalized pot several years ago the valley became a magnet for avid pot growers with no means to build a legitimate structure. There was a governmental crackdown and government always uses a huge boot that inadvertently crushes a few innocents.
Blanca is usually several degrees warmer than Alamosa during the winter. Alamosa is the "bottom of the freezer" as cold air sinks to the lower elevation.
Blanca mountain is gigantic, the terrain is brushy, steep and rocky. Hiking is better in the nearby easterly Sangre de Cristo's.
02-19-2019, 07:31 AM
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What type of building did you construct? How was finding tradesmen? Did you get people from Blanca / Fort Garland or from Alamosa?
Good to see the positives mentioned every now and then.
Do you do any outdoor cooking, BBQing?
02-19-2019, 08:35 AM
Location: Southern Colorado
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What type of building did you construct? How was finding tradesmen? Did you get people from Blanca / Fort Garland or from Alamosa?
Good to see the positives mentioned every now and then.
Do you do any outdoor cooking, BBQing?
Started with a pole barn and added four wings to it. The south wing is a passive solar sun room and that works extremely well in this very sunny environment.
I did everything myself but the drywall, plumbing and electrical. I'm a builder at heart - and often in practice. Tradesmen are easy to find in my experience. Their rates go up with strong economies of course. I employed locals.
I'm a bachelor and cooking isn't really my thing. I'm into hiking and 4 wheeling - often at the base of Mt Blanca.
02-19-2019, 09:38 AM
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Man I am glad this convo got back to BUILDING in SLV. Frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about the lack of water and the cold in SLV! I read through ALL the SLV threads on this site and then some.
Water Water Water...what the hell are you doing buying land in SLV!
Cold Cold Cold...what the hell are you doing buying land in SLV!
That is why I started this Building thread...to talk about building in SLV. So please, if you want to talk water or weather...do it on one of the other threads. I am sure everyone means well but if you look at the other threads, If you bought or are looking to buy in the SLV...your trashed in front of everyone on here. It's like their is another agenda going on here....just my 2cents on this issue. Also, where are you located in the SLV?
@ColoGuy, what do you think about the local construction skill level in SLV? Are the mostly stick builders or do they have some with modern building knowledge? Really into concrete building as you may have figured out.
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02-19-2019, 10:05 AM
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Hey Blue, I agree. Couldn't care less about water really, I'm not gonna farm anything or live off the land.
Either will have a good well or water delivered - for a few month here and there in a year I'm even happy with water delivered.
Located south-west from 17th st / Oak ave junction, second plot.
There's a good looking company in Alamosa I'm about to email regarding concrete delivery, possibly they can advise on other stuff too. The framework is the part that needs to be made well, the rest is just decoration. Materials I guess easily can be delivered - if no further than at least to Blanca from where in smaller pieces everything can be carried up with a truck.
I guess if well supervised even basic skill level would be able to do exceptional quality work.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)