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Old 12-16-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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I never said it was not diverse. I said it's not as diverse as other places. I also said it was majority white and has a small Asian population. All of which is true.
What is diversity? Diversity in 2013 is now asian, indian, black or hispanic. There isn't anymore white ''etchnicity'' distinction among the ''diverse'' populations; they think some who is Irish, German or Italian-American etc. is just plain vanilla-white. Having a large Italian community, for example, is no longer being diverse. So annoying...
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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I was in Columbus this past year and wasn't blown away by its ''diversity'' or for that matter even noticed it. Why is everyone is so hung-up about ''diversity''? I mean if someone is white, could that person say ''I don't want to live in a ''diverse'' city or if its too ''diverse'' I don't want to move there?; he or she would be tarred and feathered, career over, go home. But it's OK for someone who is ''diverse'' (aka is it too white in this or that city?) to say they want to be in a place where their own kind is. I knew an African American woman that moved to Salt Lake City a while back; she of course complained that there were no black people there. Uh, what were you thinking before you moved there Einstein?

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Old 12-16-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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Most people mistake "diversity" for skin color. Diversity includes a variety of cultures and "points of view". A hillbilly living next to an Ethiopian living next to a punk rocker living next to a programmer from India is diversity. An Asian American, white American, black American, and Mexican American who all grew up in the same neighborhood and graduated from the same university is not diversity.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Most people mistake "diversity" for skin color. Diversity includes a variety of cultures and "points of view". A hillbilly living next to an Ethiopian living next to a punk rocker living next to a programmer from India is diversity. An Asian American, white American, black American, and Mexican American who all grew up in the same neighborhood and graduated from the same university is not diversity.
True; ''diversity'' is code for ''are there blacks, asians, hispanics or indians?'' because these groups are looking to associate with their ''own''. I can't see an Indian wanting to live next door to a hillbilly. What about the Arabs? In Cleveland, hillbillies were considered among that city's ''ethnic'' groups. I just noticed no one mentions Jews as being ''diverse'' either.

I can't stand these suburban bred people talking about ''diversity''....
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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The other question about diversity is if ethnic groups that exist are still actually ethnic. For a city like Pittsburgh or Portland, well known to be very white overall, do the ethnic origins within its white population still show up? Meaning, do they still influence local culture at all or are they largely Americanized? Cleveland had a history of large European immigrant groups living there and influencing its culture, and some of those influences remain in the form of food options and neighborhood names, mostly. But are we really talking about 1st or 2nd generation immigrants still? So while I certainly agree that diversity goes well beyond skin color, the role that ethnic culture plays also matters. If all or most of a city's immigrants came 50 or more years ago, it's not going to matter as much as if they arrived within the last decade. There is going to be a big difference between a German who arrived to the US 5 years ago and an American whose family arrived from Germany in 1910.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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The other question about diversity is if ethnic groups that exist are still actually ethnic. For a city like Pittsburgh or Portland, well known to be very white overall, do the ethnic origins within its white population still show up? Meaning, do they still influence local culture at all or are they largely Americanized? Cleveland had a history of large European immigrant groups living there and influencing its culture, and some of those influences remain in the form of food options and neighborhood names, mostly. But are we really talking about 1st or 2nd generation immigrants still? So while I certainly agree that diversity goes well beyond skin color, the role that ethnic culture plays also matters. If all or most of a city's immigrants came 50 or more years ago, it's not going to matter as much as if they arrived within the last decade. There is going to be a big difference between a German who arrived to the US 5 years ago and an American whose family arrived from Germany in 1910.
What about African-Americans whose ancestors came over on slave ships? They certainly are Americanized.
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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What about African-Americans whose ancestors came over on slave ships? They certainly are Americanized.
Of course. But as people have said, there is more than one type of diversity. There's ethnic, racial, sexual, gender, educational, economic, etc. AAs would qualify at least as racial diversity. If a city is mostly AA, it's not that racially diverse, although it could be in other ways. Same with a city that's mostly white.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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THere are differences in blacks as well such as black Americans, Jamaicans, Dominicans, Haitians, puerto ricans etc. So not only racial but ethnically.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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The other question about diversity is if ethnic groups that exist are still actually ethnic. For a city like Pittsburgh or Portland, well known to be very white overall, do the ethnic origins within its white population still show up? Meaning, do they still influence local culture at all or are they largely Americanized? Cleveland had a history of large European immigrant groups living there and influencing its culture, and some of those influences remain in the form of food options and neighborhood names, mostly. But are we really talking about 1st or 2nd generation immigrants still? So while I certainly agree that diversity goes well beyond skin color, the role that ethnic culture plays also matters. If all or most of a city's immigrants came 50 or more years ago, it's not going to matter as much as if they arrived within the last decade. There is going to be a big difference between a German who arrived to the US 5 years ago and an American whose family arrived from Germany in 1910.
Well, the person from Germany coming to America today would have it much easier because Germany and the USA are comparatively very similar countries. Germans today are also much richer. But I don't know, I feel "diversity" is extremely overrated when it comes to race, or even class (though to a lesser extent). Diversity that matters is diversity of thought, ideas, opinions, etc.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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I feel "diversity" is extremely overrated when it comes to race, or even class (though to a lesser extent). Diversity that matters is diversity of thought, ideas, opinions, etc.
I have to agree with the above post. I would like it if we as a country could embrace our diversity with out first looking at race.
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