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Old 10-11-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: cleveland
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a strange question considering few cities have more than one or two things that "set them apart" from other cities unless they're mega-cities.

So to answer your question, i'd say that columbus could argue cosi and the columbus zoo are institutions that could set it apart being that both are top ranked in their respective worlds. Onc could say columbus having the largest lgbt community sin the midwest at around 5% could set it apart. Columbus has german village which is one of the largest historic preservation districts in the us. Soon columbus will ope the national veteran's memorial museum which has the potential to become a notable national museum. Columbus has a carnegie main library with a topiary garden designed to look like a seurat painting. Columbus is home to one of the top ranked botanical gardens and conservatories in the us. You can at least for now say that columbus his home to the nations first mls team, the crew.

I mean, you're asking a very subjective question with a strange stipulation. The reality is that most cities are painfully similar; it's the little things like osu, north market, cosi, the crew and blue jackets, and the short north that set it apart. How all of those things bleed to create a larger culture. I don't think taking away major pieces proves whatever point you're attempting to make, because the same could be done for basically every city that isn't a mega-city.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:36 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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So to answer your question, I'd say that Columbus could argue COSI and the Columbus Zoo are institutions that could set it apart being that both are top ranked in their respective worlds. Onc could say Columbus having the largest LGBT community sin the Midwest at around 5% could set it apart. Columbus has German Village which is one of the largest historic preservation districts in the US. Soon Columbus will ope the National Veteran's Memorial Museum which has the potential to become a notable national museum. Columbus has a Carnegie Main Library with a topiary garden designed to look like a Seurat Painting. Columbus is home to one of the top ranked Botanical Gardens and Conservatories in the US. You can at least for now say that Columbus his home to the nations first MLS team, The Crew.
So in other words, nothing.

You might has well have said "270."

Is the reason you have to put "Ohio" after "Columbus" every single time because a) Columbus is a hidden gem yet to be discovered by the world, or b) there really isn't a reason for anyone to know about Columbus outside of the region.

Really think about the answer to that.


"I mean, you're asking a very subjective question with a strange stipulation. The reality is that most cities are painfully similar; it's the little things like OSU, North market, COSI, The Crew and Blue Jackets, and the short North that set it apart. How all of those things bleed to create a larger culture. I don't think taking away major pieces proves whatever point you're attempting to make, because the same could be done for basically every city that isn't a mega-city."


Are they? If you mention Cincinnati, St. Louis, or Cleveland to someone in California, I'm pretty sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Can we say the same about Columbus?
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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Are they? If you mention Cincinnati, St. Louis, or Cleveland to someone in California, I'm pretty sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Can we say the same about Columbus?
Yes they will. What is this, 1988?

And yeah, they might know exactly what you're talking about when you say, "Cleveland", but it's a completely negative connotation in every way, and you're crazy to believe otherwise. You think people in California have any idea about Playhouse Square? No. They know about filthy rivers, laughable sports franchises, decrepit neighborhoods, and abhorrent crime. In the minds of most people, especially young, Cleveland is "a dump." No amount of your biased, irrelevant cheerleading is going to change that.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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"I mean, you're asking a very subjective question with a strange stipulation. The reality is that most cities are painfully similar; it's the little things like OSU, North market, COSI, The Crew and Blue Jackets, and the short North that set it apart. How all of those things bleed to create a larger culture. I don't think taking away major pieces proves whatever point you're attempting to make, because the same could be done for basically every city that isn't a mega-city."


Are they? If you mention Cincinnati, St. Louis, or Cleveland to someone in California, I'm pretty sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Can we say the same about Columbus?
Yes, they are. There actually was an article written recently that went into the "Sameness of Americas Cities". Name recognition doesn't equate to having something that sets a city apart, well at least not always a good reason. People may know the names of Cincinnati, Cleveland, or St Louis but it doesn't mean they know anything about them or what is in them, and if they do, it absolutely doesn't mean what they've heard is positive.

I mean... you're in California and you seem to know all about Columbus.

I also don't truly have an issue with the "Columbus, OH" thing, it's kind have become it's own little quirk. No matter how recognizable the city could become, that will always exist due to the fact that almost every has a Columbus. The city cant change that, they really should just own it.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Cbus
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If you take away the Ohio state buckeyes and High street, what else would you recommend that sets Columbus apart from any other city?
Nothing. We are one generic suburb, I would just direct them to east 105th in Cleveland for some excitement.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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A strange question considering few cities have more than one or two things that "set them apart" from other cities unless they're Mega-cities.

So to answer your question, I'd say that Columbus could argue COSI and the Columbus Zoo are institutions that could set it apart being that both are top ranked in their respective worlds. Onc could say Columbus having the largest LGBT community sin the Midwest at around 5% could set it apart. Columbus has German Village which is one of the largest historic preservation districts in the US. Soon Columbus will ope the National Veteran's Memorial Museum which has the potential to become a notable national museum. Columbus has a Carnegie Main Library with a topiary garden designed to look like a Seurat Painting. Columbus is home to one of the top ranked Botanical Gardens and Conservatories in the US. You can at least for now say that Columbus his home to the nations first MLS team, The Crew.

I mean, you're asking a very subjective question with a strange stipulation. The reality is that most cities are painfully similar; it's the little things like OSU, North market, COSI, The Crew and Blue Jackets, and the short North that set it apart. How all of those things bleed to create a larger culture. I don't think taking away major pieces proves whatever point you're attempting to make, because the same could be done for basically every city that isn't a mega-city.
Judging Columbus based on the thinnest of subjective, cherry-picked reasons is a hallmark of Cleveland posters.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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So in other words, nothing.

You might has well have said "270."

Is the reason you have to put "Ohio" after "Columbus" every single time because a) Columbus is a hidden gem yet to be discovered by the world, or b) there really isn't a reason for anyone to know about Columbus outside of the region.

Really think about the answer to that.


"I mean, you're asking a very subjective question with a strange stipulation. The reality is that most cities are painfully similar; it's the little things like OSU, North market, COSI, The Crew and Blue Jackets, and the short North that set it apart. How all of those things bleed to create a larger culture. I don't think taking away major pieces proves whatever point you're attempting to make, because the same could be done for basically every city that isn't a mega-city."


Are they? If you mention Cincinnati, St. Louis, or Cleveland to someone in California, I'm pretty sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Can we say the same about Columbus?
California provides net positive domestic migration to Columbus, so apparently a few people know it. Also, you live in California and can’t stop talking about it in barely-contained rage.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Yes, they are. There actually was an article written recently that went into the "Sameness of Americas Cities". Name recognition doesn't equate to having something that sets a city apart, well at least not always a good reason. People may know the names of Cincinnati, Cleveland, or St Louis but it doesn't mean they know anything about them or what is in them, and if they do, it absolutely doesn't mean what they've heard is positive.
Very true. The homogenization of America has been underway for a few decades now. It's now accelerating.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Judging Columbus based on the thinnest of subjective, cherry-picked reasons is a hallmark of Cleveland posters.
I don't spend much time in the Cleveland forums, but do Columbus posters post a lot in that forum? It's strange that Cleveland posters are so obsessed with Columbus, and constantly feel the need to belittle it. Most Clevelanders I know that have moved here seem quite happy, and there certainly are a ton of them (seriously, half of the people in my office are from NEO).
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Yes they will. What is this, 1988?

And yeah, they might know exactly what you're talking about when you say, "Cleveland", but it's a completely negative connotation in every way, and you're crazy to believe otherwise. You think people in California have any idea about Playhouse Square? No. They know about filthy rivers, laughable sports franchises, decrepit neighborhoods, and abhorrent crime. In the minds of most people, especially young, Cleveland is "a dump." No amount of your biased, irrelevant cheerleading is going to change that.
I'm not "cheerleading" for Cleveland, just including in it a regional group of cities that are widely identifiable from their various institutions and legacies. This is not something we can say about Columbus, OH. I'm pretty sure the World Series, NBA finals, and RNC trump Buckeye games and Comfest in terms of national prominence.
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