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Old 10-07-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Businesses and city offices will remain open on Monday in Columbus. They will close instead on November 12, Veterans Day. Columbus Day remains a federal holiday.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...e-columbus-day

I wonder if Columbus will change its name in coming decades, as Christopher Columbus increasingly becomes a more despised historical figure, just as with Woodrow Wilson.

Actually, a name change would be great opportunity for Columbus, allowing it to pick a perfect name, perhaps an aspirational name, one even easily rhymed and which could be the subject of great songs!

As Veterans Day is observed on November 11 if it's a week day, Columbus city employees will lose a long weekend in many years.

https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/veterans-day
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I don't think changing the name would be a good idea, given the expense if nothing else, but I would like to see the statue of him removed from the Statehouse.
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Old 10-07-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Perhaps the city could be renamed Leif Erikson, OH?
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:19 PM
 
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I don't know of any businesses or people who did or do celebrate Columbus Day. It was always business as usual as the vast majority of businesses and schools stay open on Colunbus Day.

Columbus Day never was a sacred holiday or an emotional holiday that was held in the same high esteem as Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, Independence Day, Veterans Day, Memorial Day. I bet over half of all Americans do not know when Columbus Day is and even less know or remember when it was "celebrated" each year on October 12th

It was also one of the 1st holidays to be moved from October 12th to the 1st Monday in October for a 3 day weekend for the banks, government workers, barbers, and the post office.

If Columbus, Ohio is not going to celebrate Columbus Day, then I predict the city will eventually have to change the name of the city, -Columbus-, to a name that is safe, bland, politicly correct, and a little less controversial.

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Old 10-07-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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This is NOT true!
All city, state, federal offices in Columbus Ohio are closed Monday October 8.
Also banks, schools, colleges.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Sheesh.

Your link is garbage.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:45 AM
 
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This is NOT true!
All city, state, federal offices in Columbus Ohio are closed Monday October 8.
Also banks, schools, colleges.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Sheesh.

Your link is garbage.
Here's the official City of Columbus press release announcing that the city government will be open Oct. 8, which remains a federal and Ohio state government holiday.

https://www.columbus.gov/Templates/D...?id=2147506287

Columbus public schools apparently were always scheduled to be open on Oct. 8.

https://www.ccsoh.us/domain/2342

Oct. 8 is the last day of regularly scheduled first session classes at Ohio State.

https://registrar.osu.edu/staff/bigcal.asp

Because Columbus Day remains a federal holiday, federal government offices and many banks are closed. However, the stock exchanges remain open.

The State of Ohio continues to celebrate Columbus Day as an official holiday, and state offices are closed on Oct. 8.

https://www.officeholidays.com/count...st_region=Ohio

The local news in Cleveland tonight said that city government and schools will be open in Columbus on Oct. 8 because Columbus Day is no longer an official holiday. The segment discussed that Oberlin now celebrates Indigenous Peoples Day and not Columbus Day on the second Monday in October.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ay/1560105002/

Columbus Does Away With Columbus Day, Celebrates Veterans | Time

https://fox8.com/2017/08/21/city-of-...s-peoples-day/

Cincinnati also will celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day and not Columbus Day beginning in 2018.

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news...s-day-on-oct-8

Interestingly, both city and public schools appear to be closed in Cleveland in observance of Columbus Day. Cleveland has a significant population of Italian descent and still celebrates Columbus Day with a parade, although it has been moved to Cleveland's Little Italy neighborhood from downtown.

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainm...h_columbu.html

The St. Patrick's Day parade in Cleveland remains the city's largest ethnic parade and is held downtown. Columbus also has a downtown St. Patrick's Day parade, but I don't know if it's as a major of an event as it is in Cleveland, which reportedly has about 10,000 participants and over 100,000 spectators, and likely many more spectators in good weather when St. Patrick's Day falls on a weekend.

Irish Americans are lucky that our contemporary American culture doesn't look unkindly on the persecution of snakes! Said in a sense of humor, and not in any way to defend the legacy of Christopher Columbus, which I acknowledge is objectionable.

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Old 10-08-2018, 12:55 AM
 
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Well alrighty then.
But many places will close as I stated.

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Old 10-08-2018, 01:00 AM
 
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Well alrighty then.
But many places will close as I stated.
Your post was generally wrong. Why do persons post such offensive posts without doing a simple search to verify that their egregious statements are accurate???
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:35 PM
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Actually, a name change would be great opportunity for Columbus, allowing it to pick a perfect name, perhaps an aspirational name, one even easily rhymed and which could be the subject of great songs!
WR, Your suggestion is a perfect summation of how vapid this whole situation is.. Displacing and replacing Columbus (arguably the most significant & accomplished individual mariner in human history, the seminal pioneer in Western expansion & the global spread of Christianity, etc), with some meaningless monicker that rhymes in song..
My opinion, cultural Marxism is turning many Americans in to deracinated ingrates. When all the icons of Western Civilization are displaced, who do we have left (?) We are a rootless, self-hating civilization, pining to be represented by meaningless nursery rhymes.. peace.
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:09 AM
 
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WR, Your suggestion is a perfect summation of how vapid this whole situation is.. Displacing and replacing Columbus (arguably the most significant & accomplished individual mariner in human history, the seminal pioneer in Western expansion & the global spread of Christianity, etc), with some meaningless monicker that rhymes in song..
My opinion, cultural Marxism is turning many Americans in to deracinated ingrates. When all the icons of Western Civilization are displaced, who do we have left (?) We are a rootless, self-hating civilization, pining to be represented by meaningless nursery rhymes.. peace.
Columbus was the most accomplished individual mariner in human history? Ferdinand Magellan, who named the Pacific Ocean, and who nearly completed the first personal circumnavigation of the world, arguably dwarfed Columbus in his discoveries. James Cook, who circumnavigated the world twice, crossed both the Antarctic and Arctic Circles in his great explorations, also was a much, much more accomplished navigator, cartographer and discoverer than Columbus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cook

You seem to hold dear a very childish, ignorant version of Columbus' accomplishments, devoid of the great brutality for which he was well known. His voyages were much more pecuniary expeditions than voyages of discovery marked by noble human aspirations. His immediate impulse upon encountering peaceful native populations was enslavement, including mutilation and death for those who were disobedient. In fact, he immediately introduced the sins that plagued the Americas for four and arguably five or more centuries, if continuing racism is considered even in the absence of slavery. A hero NOT.

If I were a resident of Columbus, I would push to rename the city ASAP.

<<Christopher Columbus stood to gain significant wealth and power from his voyage, terms he negotiated with King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain. His contract with the monarchs, called The Capitulations of Santa Fe, named Columbus the admiral, viceroy, and governor of any land he discovered. It also stated that Columbus could keep 10 percent of any “merchandise, whether pearls, precious stones, gold, silver, spices and other objects” that he “acquired” within the new territory. Columbus may indeed have had noble intentions when he sailed west, but his agreement with Spain suggests his intentions were far from selfless.

When Columbus first set foot on Hispaniola, he encountered a population of native people called the Taino. A friendly group, they willingly traded jewelry, animals, and supplies with the sailors. “They were very well built, with very handsome bodies and very good faces,” Columbus wrote in his diary. “They do not carry arms or know them....They should be good servants.” The natives were soon forced into slavery, and punished with the loss of a limb or death if they did not collect enough gold (a portion of which Columbus was allowed to keep for himself). Between the European’s brutal treatment and their infectious diseases, within decades, the Taino population was decimated.>>

Columbus even brutally treated Spanish colonists:

<<In 1499, the Spanish monarchs got wind of the mistreatment of Spanish colonists in Hispaniola, including the flogging and executions without trial. Columbus, who was governor of the territory, was arrested, chained up, and brought back to Spain. Although some of the charges may have been manufactured by his political enemies, Columbus admitted to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella that many of the accusations were true. Columbus was stripped of his title as governor.>>

https://www.biography.com/news/chris...mbus-day-facts

"Deracinated ingrates?" What a repulsive concept. Do you fly a Confederate battle flag and contribute to the Ku Klux Klan or some neo-Nazi organization?

Your IMO deranged race-oriented historical perspective, as demonstrated in this thread and in your post 45 in the following thread, would warrant spending some considerable time reading relevant threads in the history forum. However, likely you would espouse your ridiculous neo-Confederate philosophies there as well.

//www.city-data.com/forum/gener...l#post53015727

You seem to have a disgusting blind spot towards the cruel institution of human slavery and slavers, such as Christopher Columbus. And yes, despite the ignorance expounded endlessly by neo-Confederates, the American Civil War was fought over slavery, which is not an aspect of humanity that ever should be glorified, tolerated, or historically excused. See posts 242, 245, 262, 270, and post 311 in this thread.

//www.city-data.com/forum/histo...earned-25.html

So it's somewhat shocking that a city who named its NHL franchise the "Blue Jackets" in honor of Ohio's great contributions to the Union Army, would tolerate Christopher Columbus, who introduced slavery to the Americas, as its namesake.

<<The Blue Jackets name was selected because the name pays homage to Ohio’s contributions to American history and the great pride and patriotism exhibited by its citizens, especially during the Civil War as both the state of Ohio and the city of Columbus were significantly influential on the Union Army. Ohio contributed more of its population to the Union Army than any other state, while many of the Blue Coats worn by the Union soldiers were manufactured in Columbus. >>

https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/news...-name/c-479316

<<The third most populous state in the Union at the time, Ohio raised nearly 320,000 soldiers for the Union army, third behind only New York and Pennsylvania in total manpower contributed to the military and the highest per capita of any Union state.>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_i...ican_Civil_War

As home of the new National Veterans Memorial and Museum, the citizens of Columbus seriously IMO should move expeditiously to find and implement a new name for their city.

https://www.nationalvmm.org/

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