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Old 06-22-2020, 05:21 PM
 
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A few hours ago got a news flash on my phone that there is a petition circulating to change the name of Columbus. Seems folks might not believe he really was the first to discover America. Anyone hear anything about this or fake news?
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:36 PM
 
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It was a change.org petition, which basically anyone and their cat can submit. It was more humorous than anything (since the petition wants to change the name to "Flavortown"), but I agree the man himself is not someone to memorialize.
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Old 06-23-2020, 02:40 PM
 
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It's not going to change, but if it does, it won't be a dumb Guy Fieri catchphrase.
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Kansas City MO
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If we are naming it for Guy Fieri, Scroteopolis would be more appropriate than Flavortown.
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Old 06-24-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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Changing the name is dumb.

America is named after Amerigo Vespucci. So we should change the United States of America, and North America, South America. And change Washington DC, Washington state, etc. Some people have too much time on their hands.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:23 PM
 
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Wait until everyone finds out that Moses Cleaveland gave whiskey as a bribe to the native tribes in northern Ohio and that Cincinnatus was a staunch opponent of the rights of the commoner.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Changing the name is dumb.

America is named after Amerigo Vespucci. So we should change the United States of America, and North America, South America. And change Washington DC, Washington state, etc. Some people have too much time on their hands.
Americans in particular tend to be hopelessly historically illiterate and lack any type of perspective.
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:06 PM
 
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Americans in particular tend to be hopelessly historically illiterate and lack any type of perspective.
Not to mention, knee-jerk as hell.
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:38 PM
 
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Americans in particular tend to be hopelessly historically illiterate and lack any type of perspective.
Why do you constantly insult others' knowledge of history when your knowledge is so lacking???

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/us/ch...rnd/index.html

Naming a major city after Christopher Columbus in this day and age is inexcusable for an enlightened society.

And please don't compare Columbus with George Washington until you read Thomas Flexner's "The Indispensable Man." Washington, unlike Jefferson, trained his slaves with skills before he freed them in his will. Martha Washington had freed all of George's slaves before her own death. Flexner notes that Washington thought a Civil War was inevitable over slavery and that he wrote to a friend that he would side with the North, according to one of Washington's letters cited by Flexner.

Little is redeeming about Columbus compared with the great contributions to humanity of George Washington.

Washington risked his life and fortune to establish a democracy based on democratic ideals. Slavery was the one issue that threatened that task, and he constantly struggled with it. Washington had seen African Americans fight in the Continental Army and that likely greatly influenced his evolving opinion about slavery.

Those critical of George Washington should consider how the current generation of Americans is handling climate change, a much greater threat to humanity than slavery, which had existed in history certainly through the 19th century and even into the 20th and 21st century in one form or another.
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:44 PM
 
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Wait until everyone finds out that Moses Cleaveland gave whiskey as a bribe to the native tribes in northern Ohio and that Cincinnatus was a staunch opponent of the rights of the commoner.
A better person to name Cleveland after is Alfred Kelley, who ensured that the Ohio Canal was built with Cleveland as it's Lake Erie terminus. Kelley arguably was the actual father of the great city in which he is largely forgotten.

https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Alfred_Kelley
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