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Old 01-11-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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I'm afraid of torrenting anymore. Might be too dangerous. See this:
This domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations

Sometimes engineers need a "practice" copy of Proe or Solidworks or whatever software they need to know to practice their profession. And pdf books are so nice...

But I never torrent music or movies.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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It's always been somewhat dangerous to torrent things that are not available to the public for free. SOPA/PIPA will have a giant effect on sites that link to torrents, but things like usenet and IRC channels will begin to flourish again.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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Take precautions.

1)dont seed
2)use a pier blocker
3)delete torrents and files off your pc once you are done with them
4)use a proxy
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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Isn't this enough? PeerBlock

If no one seeds then we can hardly download anymore.

What is using a proxy? How do you do that?
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Isn't this enough? PeerBlock
It's not something I'd put all my eggs into.

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If no one seeds then we can hardly download anymore.
Seeding is what gets you caught. They're not worried as much about who's downloading, but who is DISTRIBUTING copyrighted content.

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What is using a proxy? How do you do that?
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-...w=1440&bih=785
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Isn't this enough? PeerBlock

If no one seeds then we can hardly download anymore.

What is using a proxy? How do you do that?

No Peerblock is not enough. Its like wearing a condom, it works but not all the time.The snoop companies as they call them change their IP constantly so peerblock can not block them all even if they update all the time which they do. "They" say around 10% of the snoop companies still get through and connect to your IP even with a peerblocker.

Easiest way for companies to come after you is when you seed. Just dont do it. Let other people do it.

Proxy acts as a go between or a middle man. You connect to a proxy, proxy connects to the client. Your IP shows up as the proxy IP which is based somewhere else. If you have a good proxy it will show your IP to be in a different country. There are many ways to set up a proxy or you can
just pay for a service. If you really want to know more about proxies i suggest finding a community that deals with pirating like extratorrent or piratebay or something and ask them what the best is and why.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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Sometimes engineers need a "practice" copy of Proe or Solidworks or whatever software they need to know to practice their profession. And pdf books are so nice...
If a vendor does not provide a 'trial' version of software (as does Photoshop) then your "practice" copy is simply theft of copyrighted software.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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If a vendor does not provide a 'trial' version of software (as does Photoshop) then your "practice" copy is simply theft of copyrighted software.
Solidworks and Proe do not sell public / discounted private editions of their software. So if you're an engineer not in school you cannot BUY a copy of their software unless you PAY them $6000+ for a copy. So those engineers who do not know the software are SOL when it comes to getting a job. I talked to a Sr Mech Eng friend and he says everyone else he knows uses a bootleg copy of CAD software just to practice on and learn the software for a job. So a "little bootlegging" in the industry helps out the software companies because there will be a candidate pool of applicants who know how to use their software.

Now Autodesk is doing the right thing. They provide Inventor free to unemployed engineers who need training on their software.

In 2001 I learned Robohelp on a 30 day trial edition from a book. Then I later recommend this software at the next company I worked at.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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Solidworks and Proe do not sell public / discounted private editions of their software. So if you're an engineer not in school you cannot BUY a copy of their software unless you PAY them $6000+ for a copy. So those engineers who do not know the software are SOL when it comes to getting a job. I talked to a Sr Mech Eng friend and he says everyone else he knows uses a bootleg copy of CAD software just to practice on and learn the software for a job. So a "little bootlegging" in the industry helps out the software companies because there will be a candidate pool of applicants who know how to use their software.

Now Autodesk is doing the right thing. They provide Inventor free to unemployed engineers who need training on their software.

In 2001 I learned Robohelp on a 30 day trial edition from a book. Then I later recommend this software at the next company I worked at.
By stealing the software, someone who cannot typically afford to learn the software can learn it. This is a social economic issue. Someone who cannot afford to pay for training or purchase the software outright now has skills that they have attained by bootlegging software, making them potentially eligible for a job that should go to someone who paid the price to get trained. So now you have poor people stealing jobs from non-poor people. That's an issue.

Also an issue is the fact that the person feels so elite that he/she thinks they can live above the law and steal.

If the software companies felt that it was a worthwhile marketing strategy to get people trained on their software, they would create free training programs to do that. And many do. But those who don't have chosen not to do so. That doesn't mean that you can go ahead and steal from them.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Solidworks and Proe do not sell public / discounted private editions of their software. So if you're an engineer not in school you cannot BUY a copy of their software unless you PAY them $6000+ for a copy. So those engineers who do not know the software are SOL when it comes to getting a job. I talked to a Sr Mech Eng friend and he says everyone else he knows uses a bootleg copy of CAD software just to practice on and learn the software for a job. So a "little bootlegging" in the industry helps out the software companies because there will be a candidate pool of applicants who know how to use their software.

Now Autodesk is doing the right thing. They provide Inventor free to unemployed engineers who need training on their software.

In 2001 I learned Robohelp on a 30 day trial edition from a book. Then I later recommend this software at the next company I worked at.

Doesn't change the fact you are still stealing software. Not that I'm gonna report you or anything (on the contrary, I think it shows a certain amount of gumption on your part). I'd still be very careful.

If I were you, I'd save up to go to a training course to learn the software. Many colleges teach single courses in a particular software program and are licensed by the companies who develop the software. If you are gainfully employed and can save up some money to take such a course, I highly recommend doing it. Further, taking a course will give you a piece of paper you can show in an interview. Pirating software doesn't.

And to the OP: a short list of things I would NEVER download via torrent:

-Anything illicit of a sexual nature (probably goes without saying, and if you were going to then you're scum of the earth anyway who deserves to be put in a mental hospital). This goes for regular porn too. Most of that stuff is paid content.
-Anything music related unless the band has explicitly given their consent (a lot of indie bands and less famous bands do this to promote their music and a great way to get unique music, you can say you're a fan before they were famous!)
-Anything video related unless the production company has given explicit consent. This can be surprising ... my wife watches Japanese dramas and Korean dramas that are aired in Japan. Apparently some of this content is on USA channels in our area, so she can't watch them via torrenting. Also, I'm a nerd of anime, I admit it. I ALWAYS check to see if there's a studio who has licensed it for American consumption. The good translation groups stop work and notify their consumers if a series has been licensed (a good example would be Fairy Tail). A bad one will simply thumb their nose (or legitimately claim they don't have to worry because they're in a foreign country). It's up to you to discover if the content is licensed in your country.
-Any software that isn't freeware or governed by the GNU license or otherwise
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