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Old 11-29-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Scranton
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I don't know what Microsoft's expectations are, but Windows 8 is kind of surprising to me. I didn't think many people would upgrade from Windows 7 given how solid Windows 7 is. Windows 8 doesn't have much to offer immediately.

Yet, Windows 8 is outsold Windows 7 in their first months respectively. Given that Windows 7 was an upgrade from an OS that many did not like, I consider that quite impressive.
I'm pretty sure that the $15 and $40 upgrade offers had a lot to do with it. Sell it at the standard $99 and the sales will suddenly dry up. Too bad that there isn't a measure of how many people regretted the upgrade.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:21 PM
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but is another factor that makes Microsoft's claims seem inflated is due to the fact that they are measuring licenses sold and not use? For example, let's say 100 licenses are sold for computers at a Microcenter store. However, only 20 new laptops or PCs are actually sold to the public or business sector that have Windows 8. Microsoft could say they sold 100 copies of Windows 8, while 80 of those licenses are sitting in the store unused. Hence, such figures do not really tell you much. Is that how it goes?

Is there someway to measure the success of Windows 8 using any other figures? Are there at least estimates into how many members of the public actually operates a Windows 8 system in their home, let's say? Wouldn't there be at least estimates on how many owned computers installed Windows 8 into their systems for the business world? I have no idea.

When I studied statistics in grad course, we were constantly reminded how statistical conclusions can be biased by what and how something is being measured. One can easily twist the data around, by adjusting their approach, to better fit their argument. Hence, do we have other options to measure how well Windows 8 is doing overall?
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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LA Times

Much more balanced article...
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but is another factor that makes Microsoft's claims seem inflated is due to the fact that they are measuring licenses sold and not use? For example, let's say 100 licenses are sold for computers at a Microcenter store. However, only 20 new laptops or PCs are actually sold to the public or business sector that have Windows 8. Microsoft could say they sold 100 copies of Windows 8, while 80 of those licenses are sitting in the store unused. Hence, such figures do not really tell you much. Is that how it goes?

Is there someway to measure the success of Windows 8 using any other figures? Are there at least estimates into how many members of the public actually operates a Windows 8 system in their home, let's say? Wouldn't there be at least estimates on how many owned computers installed Windows 8 into their systems for the business world? I have no idea.

When I studied statistics in grad course, we were constantly reminded how statistical conclusions can be biased by what and how something is being measured. One can easily twist the data around, by adjusting their approach, to better fit their argument. Hence, do we have other options to measure how well Windows 8 is doing overall?
When someone buys a corporate desktop from Dell or HP today, it comes with Windows 8 Pro, but the buyer can elect to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro. I believe they still count that as a Win8 sale even though the user specifically said "Do not want" to Win8.

I think web usage statistics are a better measure of real world usage of an OS.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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When someone buys a corporate desktop from Dell or HP today, it comes with Windows 8 Pro, but the buyer can elect to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro. I believe they still count that as a Win8 sale even though the user specifically said "Do not want" to Win8.

I think web usage statistics are a better measure of real world usage of an OS.
Good point! I will look around the interest for such statistics or at least estimates. I have no idea what I will be able to find. However, if anyone finds any reliable data in the meantime, I encourage them to post it!
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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it will be like Apple. upgrades every year at about thirty dollars/per.
If MS was really smart they would launch only one version of the OS
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Don't like Windows 8? Stick around til next years release.....



Windows Blue: Microsoft's Plan To Release a New Version of Windows Every Year - Slashdot
Sounds like business has been slow for them, too...


Peace.
brian
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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This news article in CNET sums it up fairly well.

Windows 8 slower out of gate than Windows 7, says report | Microsoft - CNET News
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