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Old 11-14-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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Well, we were talking about vulnerable Windows making AV necessary in the first place. If MS made a better, safer OS, we would not need all that additional software.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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Well, we were talking about vulnerable Windows making AV necessary in the first place. If MS made a better, safer OS, we would not need all that additional software.
And that is where you're wrong. Based on your logic, had Windows not been invented (or if we could somehow remove their products), there would be no need for AV. Which is obviously not correct. You do know the first 'virus' (I believe it was actually a worm) wasn't even on a Personal Computer.

Does Windows have vulnerabilities? Absolutely. And their security architecture can certainly be better. But show me an OS that doesn't have vulnerabilities. Every piece of major software written has vulnerabilities. And as they become more complicated, more vulnerabilities will likely exist. And yes you'll still need security software regardless of what OS you run. In fact, A/V software as we know it is pretty much on its last leg.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:31 AM
 
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But all OS's are not equal. Others are simply safer. OSX has protection built into it which is why there is not much commercial AV software for Apple. Which brings me back to the original post, where I said that if MS did a better job at making their Windows safer and better, we would not have to worry about such problems and spend money on third-party software in the first place. I mean, the AV industry has become a big business, based on the fears of computer users.
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Spybot recently released full blown virus scan software. Everyone trusts Spybot and get this: It's $14/PER YEAR.

If I was going to pay for one, it would be that one.
Try the free version first. It IS quality.

http://www.safer-networking.org/dl/
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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I apologize if I sound like I am hijacking this thread, but my question is similar to the OP's.

I have a HP Pavilion with Win 8. The Norton that came pre-installed on the laptop has expired. Should I renew it? Or should should I go for a better/more affordable alternative? If that latter, what would you suggest?

Thank you.
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Old 11-17-2014, 10:10 AM
 
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Spybot recently released full blown virus scan software. Everyone trusts Spybot and get this: It's $14/PER YEAR.

If I was going to pay for one, it would be that one.
Try the free version first. It IS quality.

Download | Spybot ©
Has any organization or magazine ever tested and evaluated it thoroughly?
I remember the old Spybot from years ago, I am actually surprised they are still around...
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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Spybot - Search & Destroy +AV 2.3 Review & Rating | PCMag.com

Erg... I retract my recommendation.
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Old 11-17-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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Yeah, better stick with Rusky Kaspersky or something like that.
I am still testing the Qihoo thingy, I like it
I am wondering though how they pay their employees since it is free
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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Norton 360.

No one anti virus software is the best.

I also use multiple malware/trojan Removal tools from several different companies as well as Norton Power eraser that comes with 360.

Think layers when you think security.

Also make sure your operating software is constantly being updated to ensure its patched when a new one comes out. As well as spend some time understanding your firewall and how programs communicate thru it.

Your second paragraph: "I also use multiple malware/Trojan Removal Tools......."


Do you use them in conjunction with Norton 360? I have been under the impression that only one can be
used at a time.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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Your second paragraph: "I also use multiple malware/Trojan Removal Tools......."


Do you use them in conjunction with Norton 360? I have been under the impression that only one can be
used at a time.
You should only use one real-time protection antivirus utility at a time. However, additional malware scanning software, such as malware-bytes is okay to run in the foreground.
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