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Old 08-04-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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Haven't owned a Mac since 1989. How do Macs handle updating, as opposed to the way Windows does patch Tuesdays and all that?

Also, I read Windows 10 has Auto Updates all the time and you can't turn it off. Are they eventually going to let people turn it off? Can you at least do "notify first before loading updates"?
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Haven't owned a Mac since 1989. How do Macs handle updating, as opposed to the way Windows does patch Tuesdays and all that?
Windows has patch Tuesdays mainly to support their Enterprise/Corporate client's patch management process. Apple doesn't have a formalized process - more ad hoc.

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Also, I read Windows 10 has Auto Updates all the time and you can't turn it off. Are they eventually going to let people turn it off? Can you at least do "notify first before loading updates"?
For the home version - there is no option of delaying/rejecting updates. I've actually heard support for this as the least protected systems are the home users.

Pro/Enterprise allow patches to be delayed for testing. The only version that provides full control is the Enterprise version on long term support (essentially companies on volume licensing).
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:37 AM
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Ad hoc, install when you want or set it up to install automatically. You can opt to install all updates or just security fixes.



In the grand scheme of things, automatic, forced updates are a net good for Windows, though one could argue that a bit more fine-grained control would be nice - e.g. the ability to disable the automatic installation of non-security updates.

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Old 08-08-2015, 01:08 AM
 
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In the grand scheme of things, automatic, forced updates are a net good for Windows, though one could argue that a bit more fine-grained control would be nice - e.g. the ability to disable the automatic installation of non-security updates.
Windows allows this on the pro edition.
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Old 08-08-2015, 09:46 AM
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Mac OS Updates are installed through the App Store. There's no cost to receive them. It's just the tool Apple uses for distributing them.

Version updates are released about once a year now. OS X 10.10 Yosemite is the current version update. OS X 10.11, El Capitan will be the next one, and it's coming out in a few weeks. Apple is subtly encouraging users to update to the latest version update by making them free and by only releasing security updates for the current version. Since there's no cost and there haven't been many backwards-compatibility issues with the most recent few version updates, there's almost no reason not to take them.
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Old 08-08-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Apple updates are sure a lot easier, and take less time than windows updates.

I'm a long time mac user, but bought a HP laptop because it was too good of a deal to pass up... Setup has taken at least 7 hours so far, and I haven't even installed the programs i need. And I want to install Windows 10 before I put any graphic design programs on...

A few days ago, I tried to buy a subscription to MS Office for Mac, because I had a client who was stupid enough to use MS Publisher for a graphic design program.

Not only was the download difficult and unsuccessful, it took them 6 hours to process my credit card (apple and adobe do it instantly). So MS takes my money, and doesn't deliver the product.

Then customer service puts be through to some offshore tech with a very poor command of English, who insisted on having access to my computer for a simple install. WTF?!

Updates and installs should not be this difficult.
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Old 08-08-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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Haven't owned a Mac since 1989. How do Macs handle updating, as opposed to the way Windows does patch Tuesdays and all that?

Also, I read Windows 10 has Auto Updates all the time and you can't turn it off. Are they eventually going to let people turn it off? Can you at least do "notify first before loading updates"?
Save yourself, get a mac.
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Old 08-08-2015, 10:30 PM
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A few days ago, I tried to buy a subscription to MS Office for Mac, because I had a client who was stupid enough to use MS Publisher for a graphic design program.
How did that work out for you? I don't think there is a Mac equivalent to MS Publisher.
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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You can get a mac version of publisher - its part of the MS Office Suite Subscription (which is why I TRIED to buy an office subscription., I figured 6 dollars a month wasn't too outrageous)

I have a PC at work with MS Publisher. Dealing with obscure fonts was a major hassle (if you design any document and send it for someone else to prepress/clean up/print/publish - please include all your fonts. Macs and PCs can both use the same OTF and True Type Fonts)

It was easier to make the edits by converting the MS Publisher Document to a PDF, and making most of the edits in Adobe Illustrator.
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:24 PM
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You can get a mac version of publisher - its part of the MS Office Suite Subscription (which is why I TRIED to buy an office subscription., I figured 6 dollars a month wasn't too outrageous)
Since when? As far as Microsoft knows, there is no Mac version of Publisher, period. Access and Publisher are included with an Office 365 subscription, but those two only run on Windows.
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