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Old 12-28-2023, 07:54 AM
 
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Thank you for the advice! It is a good password with very random letters, numbers and characters. The kind that takes me much effort to type in lol

Catsmom - I'm coming late to this conversation but looking at it I want to congratulate you for sticking with the process, asking solid questions and following difficult instructions. You are well on your way to being a knowledgeable network user. I will also say that you received excellent concise advice from the responders here.


My big complaint is with sites that limit the use of special characters in creating passwords. I had one major site recently that would not allow most special characters!
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Old 12-28-2023, 08:10 AM
 
Location: In Little Ping's Maple Dictatorship
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Your best method for making a secure password is to take a phrase, lyric or poem that you are fond of and won't forget as a starting point. For example:

T'was the night before Christmas, and all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.


Now take the first letter of each word using the case it is in and put it in order with the punctuation:

T'tnbC,aatth,Nacws,neam.

You would use this as the password. You can go one step further and take the last two digits of your birthyear and tack it on the end for added security.
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Old 12-28-2023, 10:47 AM
 
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Your best method for making a secure password is to take a phrase, lyric or poem that you are fond of and won't forget as a starting point. For example:

T'was the night before Christmas, and all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.


Now take the first letter of each word using the case it is in and put it in order with the punctuation:

T'tnbC,aatth,Nacws,neam.

You would use this as the password. You can go one step further and take the last two digits of your birthyear and tack it on the end for added security.
Dear GOD. Shoot me now.
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Old 12-28-2023, 11:58 AM
 
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Catsmom - I'm coming late to this conversation but looking at it I want to congratulate you for sticking with the process, asking solid questions and following difficult instructions. You are well on your way to being a knowledgeable network user. I will also say that you received excellent concise advice from the responders here.


My big complaint is with sites that limit the use of special characters in creating passwords. I had one major site recently that would not allow most special characters!
I greatly appreciate your encouraging words. I have more to tell now. After all that getting the wireless hooked up a friend gave me a firestick for Christmas, AND a not in use TV as well. My current TV was an old Magnavox all in one model. 2005 or thereabouts. Huge dinosaur thing. Neither DVD or VHS works any more but I bought a DVD player to use hooked up to it. But it is not able to stream or anything like that.

So I brought that firestick and TV home, determined to put it to use. I spent the entire next day on it. There were many meltdowns and tears, and even pain because I couldn't get the basted battery slot open on the remote. (I finally put on rubber gloves and that gave me enough grip to get the thing open)

Anyway to shorten this long story, I did it! I DID IT ALL BY MYSELF!!!!! I am telling you I was the smarted person in the world hahhaha!

I even took the free month of Prime Amazon offered me so I could watch Frasier for free. (I usually don't bother when that promotion comes up I don't need it) The side story on that is I bought the series DVD set, but the DVDs were corrupt and when I sent it back they didn't offer me another (which tells me they are all bad). So I'll hopefully be able to watch all 8 season before the free Prime runs out. I'm good for about 2 episodes at a time, while I soak my feet at night.
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Old 12-28-2023, 11:59 AM
 
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Your best method for making a secure password is to take a phrase, lyric or poem that you are fond of and won't forget as a starting point. For example:

T'was the night before Christmas, and all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.


Now take the first letter of each word using the case it is in and put it in order with the punctuation:

T'tnbC,aatth,Nacws,neam.

You would use this as the password. You can go one step further and take the last two digits of your birthyear and tack it on the end for added security.

What a good idea, thanks!
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Old 12-28-2023, 12:11 PM
 
Location: In Little Ping's Maple Dictatorship
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What a good idea, thanks!
Thanks. The example I provided would take a computer about 33 nonillion years to crack via brute force.

You can check how secure a given password is at the following site:

https://www.security.org/how-secure-is-my-password/
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Old 12-28-2023, 12:56 PM
 
Location: SCW, AZ
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Thanks. The example I provided would take a computer about 33 nonillion years to crack via brute force.
And a few nonillion years less to remember it!







lol!
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Old 12-29-2023, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Dear GOD. Shoot me now.
That would be DG.Smn23. A little short but Benoit bad.
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Old 12-29-2023, 10:14 PM
 
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I even took the free month of Prime Amazon offered me so I could watch Frasier for free. (I usually don't bother when that promotion comes up I don't need it) The side story on that is I bought the series DVD set, but the DVDs were corrupt and when I sent it back they didn't offer me another (which tells me they are all bad). So I'll hopefully be able to watch all 8 season before the free Prime runs out. I'm good for about 2 episodes at a time, while I soak my feet at night.

If you have access to COZI-TV, they run 2-4 episodes of Frasier every night. Oh, there are 11 seasons.
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Old 12-29-2023, 11:04 PM
 
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Your best method for making a secure password is to take a phrase, lyric or poem that you are fond of and won't forget as a starting point. For example:

T'was the night before Christmas, and all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.


Now take the first letter of each word using the case it is in and put it in order with the punctuation:

T'tnbC,aatth,Nacws,neam.

You would use this as the password. You can go one step further and take the last two digits of your birthyear and tack it on the end for added security.
Adding initial letter sequence of popular phrases and song verses to my dictionary pw cracker rn.

J/K I'm not the blackhat type

Although this method is much stronger than what many people appear to be using. Top 100,000 passwords list and top 1,000,000 common passwords list inform us of that.

General tip for lurkers who want strong passphrases:
Alphanumeric keysets do not provide enough unique characters to have a sufficient pool of entropy required for truly strong passphrases. So the solution is to extend the overall length of passwords. Historic wisdom is that a passphrase has to be at least 12 characters long in order to be crack resilient. But things have changed. I would suggest at least 26 characters, especially for those that will be used for local device encryption. Consider composing the lengthy passphrase as mnemonic chunks, for memory recall.
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