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Old 03-29-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: OH>IL>CO>CT
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Originally Posted by jaydez
Lets put this in perspective:

Boston, MA: 89.6 sq miles. Population 625,087

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Out of curiosity, any idea how much of that is land and how much is water?
Per Wikipedia, about half:
• Land 48.43 sq mi (125.43 km2) • Water 41.21 sq mi (106.73 km2)
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Many states have one big city. If Bridgeport, Stamford, New Haven and Hartford weren't so spread out, and we had one centralized urban zone - it would love the same as many major cities.

Also, Stamford is not the biggest employer. Hartford is.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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Bridgeport for etc It the most populous city in CT but it feel small, How Stamford the 4th largest city but contain with most companies/ job labor force
Why isn't Boston a village?
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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Well, the Hartford metro area is 1.2 million and Providence is 1.6 million. So those are fairly large for being between NYC and Boston. Hartford is the largest metro in CT. It's a more complete and distinct metro area than FFC or New Haven, really. FFC and New Haven are rather subordinate to NYC and don't really have much of a centralized urban area. If the state of CT were to build a beltway around any of its cities, Hartford would be the most ideal candidate, because it has a full 360 degree radius of suburban development.
What is the Hartford metro area? Hartford county has less people than Fairfield county and about the same as New Haven, so I'm assuming there are other areas that are being included in the number.

I agree that Fairfield county is somewhat disjointed with the Stamford/Norwalk/Bridgeport corridor, and is focused on NYC to an extent. But the New Haven metro area is pretty defined. Milford to Madison is solidly within the sphere of New Haven. And while there is a slight NYC influence in New Haven, its nothing like it is in Fairfield county.

Also, while Hartford serves as an employment center for the area, it does not serve as a cultural or entertainment center to the same extent that New Haven does for its area. The Hartford suburbs mainly serve this function.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What is the Hartford metro area? Hartford county has less people than Fairfield county and about the same as New Haven, so I'm assuming there are other areas that are being included in the number.

I agree that Fairfield county is somewhat disjointed with the Stamford/Norwalk/Bridgeport corridor, and is focused on NYC to an extent. But the New Haven metro area is pretty defined. Milford to Madison is solidly within the sphere of New Haven. And while there is a slight NYC influence in New Haven, its nothing like it is in Fairfield county.

Also, while Hartford serves as an employment center for the area, it does not serve as a cultural or entertainment center to the same extent that New Haven does for its area. The Hartford suburbs mainly serve this function.
The Hartford MSA is comprised of Hartford, Tolland and Middlesex counties, which equates to 1.2 million residents. FFC and NHC only have about 900,000 each. I agree with all the rest of your comments. I just think that the Hartford metro core is more magnetic than New Haven's metro core. New Haven, being on the water, only has about a 200 degree land radius, while Hartford has 360 degrees.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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The population densities of cities like Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven are about 10,000 people per square mile, comparable to most "major" cities. So they (especially Hartford with its tall buildings) actually * look * like big cities in some parts, but the small actual population that density represents (thus a small municipal area) means you hit the suburbs, woods and farms sooner going away from the city than you would in larger cities (though that's not really true with Bridgeport and New Haven except heading north (and in the case of New Haven east as well) as New Haven on west is basically NYC metro sprawl.

The metro population of Hartford is actually comparable to places like Buffalo, Cincinnati, New Orleans, or Milwaukee that are on the lower limit of metros with a "major league" team in at least one of the 4 major US sports.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:37 PM
 
Location: chepachet
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Out of curiosity, any idea how much of that is land and how much is water?
Boston: 48.4 land, 41.2 water
Providence: 18.5 land, 2.2 water pop 178042
Worcester: 37.6 land, 1.0 water pop 181045

all measurements sq.miles
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Many states have one big city. If Bridgeport, Stamford, New Haven and Hartford weren't so spread out, and we had one centralized urban zone - it would love the same as many major cities.

Also, Stamford is not the biggest employer. Hartford is.
Yes, but that would had also meant a big urban mess. Except for Stamford, the other cities are made up of mostly bad neighborhoods. Imagine all that mess put into one giant urban area.

Ah, thanks but no thanks.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Stamford really isn't a city in a true sense , its Core isn't as dense as New Haven or Springfield its more sprawlly....its trying to be a city but has failed so far with horrible Pedestrian and Bike Infrastructure. Its main Station is a hot mess and too add even more issues its planning a new Station on the East Side which doesn't really improve Transit in the city. It like New Haven has canceled its Streetcar Network which was foolish with all the development planned...
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Stamford really isn't a city in a true sense , its Core isn't as dense as New Haven or Springfield its more sprawlly....
Dude, what are you talking about?

Density Levels
Downtown Stamford 11,964 per sq mi
Downtown Bridgeport 1,604
Downtown New Haven 10,331
Downtown Hartford 1,052

Springfield (NJ) 2,783

Stamford has by far the most dense skyline possibly in the entire state and that says a lot concerning density for both residential and office space. All of this without counting all the people that visit the downtown area from the surrounding suburbs.

Stamford is very much a city and one of the most successful in the nation in terms of urban renewal.
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