04-17-2013, 11:22 AM
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Hello. My husband has been offered a position in Meriden. We will be relocating from out of state and will rent for a year while we get more familiar with the area. We both grew up on Long Island, and after having moved around the country quite a bit, we are happy about returning to the Northeast. We are looking for a picturesque, family friendly town to raise our two girls in (a 3 year old and 6 month old). After doing a lot of research on these boards we have come up with a list of towns that seem to meet what we are looking for.
We realize that no town will offer everything we are looking for but our wish list includes:
•Within a 45 minute commute to Meriden (in rush hour traffic)
•Within a 2 hour drive to Long Island
•Close proximity to a rail line offering access to NYC
•Great schools
•Quaint and walkable downtown area with restaurants and stores and a definite New England feel.
•Activities for children. I stay home with the children and am always looking for classes and activities to attend to get us out of the house during the week.
•Sense of community. Parades, fairs, holiday fun and other special events.
•Pastoral setting. As I mentioned earlier we grew up on Long Island and we do not want anything that resembles it. We are not looking for a sprawling suburb consisting of houses sitting on top of each other and ugly strip malls. We are looking for a rural or rural/suburban town with New England charm.
•3 bedroom homes for around $300,000. Move-in ready and on at least 2 acres. We are OK with painting and doing some updating but not looking for major renovations at this price.
•Relaxed chicken ordinances. We plan on keeping a small number of backyard chickens.
•Close proximity to a Whole Foods (or other natural food market) and a Farmers Market. A local food co-op would also be great.
•Parks and greenways.
We took a trip up in February and explored Litchfield County a bit (mostly Kent and Litchfield). We loved the scenic beauty of the area but want to keep our options open and explore some other areas of the state as well.
We have narrowed it down to the following towns:
Cheshire/Bethany/Seymour
Milford
Monroe
Litchfield/Bethlehem/Woodbury/Roxbury
Durham
Branford/Guilford/Madison
Chester/Essex/Old Saybrook
Are we on the right track? Do any of these towns seem like a better fit than the others? How would traffic affect these commutes?
Thanks in advance for your help!
04-17-2013, 11:46 AM
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Some comments on your choices.
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Cheshire/Bethany/Seymour
Cheshire has a relatively charming center, but it's not really a walkable town center by any means. You are close to Hamden and New Haven for that though. Bethany is just woods, very rural - but great schools (Amity is highly ranked). Seymour has a small charming downtown area and is a great value. It still suffers from a bit of the white trash Valley stigma, but is improving.
Milford
A lot of Milford has the neighborhoods you say you don't like. Much of Devon is sprawling, closely knit small homes built in the 50's/60's much like Long Island. And Route 1 is very much strip-mall-central. However, there are parts of Milford that are distinctly New England that fit your description: Downtown/Duck Pond area, Gulf Street, South of the Green, Woodmont, Morningside, parts of North Milford, etc. It has the VERY quaint walkable downtown with NYC train access and tons of parades/fairs/events/kids stuff (example coming up: http://www.milfordduckrace.com/ ), and a shorter trip to LI (I prefer the ferry in Bridgeport 15 minutes away, personally). Test scores aren't quite as good as other schools you've been looking at, but anecdotally I've heard positive things about them from actual residents. Whole Foods + Trader Joe's + 3 farmer's markets. Out of all the places you're looking, Milford is the most populated and has the most activity/things to do.
Monroe
Has the idyllic New England setting you want and good schools, but no walkable downtown area. Good location for trips to LI. Commercial areas are definitely on the strip-mall side, but nice.
Litchfield/Bethlehem/Woodbury/Roxbury
These are gorgeous towns. Litchfield has the most significant walkable downtown area, though it's small compared to others you'll find near Hartford or the coast. But it is quintessential old Colonial New England. The character of these towns is very distinct. They have an isolated and rural feel, with gorgeous touches of Colonial New England charm. If you're looking for that, there's nothing in CT quite unlike LI than these towns! Kind of a schlep to LI/NYC though. New Morning is a great Whole Foods-like grocery store in Woodbury. Where they lack is activity, which is something that's important to you. They are definitely more sleepy.
Durham
Like Bethany, Durham is largely rural. Not sure that's what you're looking for.
Branford/Guilford/Madison
I don't know your budget, but Madison/Guilford almost seem ideal for you. The only thing you'd be giving up is quick LI/NYC access. They are beautiful coastal towns with plenty of charm and nice walkable downtowns. But are a little spendy compared to some of your choices.
Chester/Essex/Old Saybrook
Getting even further away, but stunningly beautiful towns. These I put in the same category as the Litchfield area: isolated, but gorgeous. You're still relatively close to New Haven though, which is nice for train access and a little city life (New Haven has an excellent culture/nightlife/dining scene). Again a little less activity than some other places you're looking at, but still more than the Litchfield area.
Are we on the right track? Do any of these towns seem like a better fit than the others? How would traffic affect these commutes?
Thanks in advance for your help!
As far as traffic, it's really not a huge deal going to Meriden. East of New Haven, you'll want to skip the 95/91 interchange until at least the bridge is complete in 2015/2016.
Coming from the Litchfield area, 84 might be a little tricky near Waterbury?
Traffic is really not an issue in that area...
04-17-2013, 11:54 AM
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Great. Thank you for the traffic info!
04-17-2013, 11:56 AM
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I missed your budget, I think that towns like Litchfield/Roxbury/Madison/Guilford may be pushing your budget a bit, but definitely explore all options with a realtor.
04-17-2013, 11:57 AM
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I will also say that, after being in inner Nassau county enough visiting my SO's relatives, ANY of these towns will be a major upgrade in charm.
Lastly, keep in mind traffic going to LI can be atrocious. The ferry in Bridgeport is a great option, depending on where in LI you have to be. It's pricey, but can be worth it. You can hit bad traffic in Fairfield County CT and then again in the NYC metro area. It's almost impossible to make that trip without getting stuck on weekdays and holidays.
04-17-2013, 12:04 PM
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I'll throw out an alternative opinion just to see what you think. Aside from the busy sprawling suburb near I-95 or Route 1, I think either Fairfield or Milford fits your bill. If you choose to live near the Merritt (which would be a wise choice for your husband's commute to Meriden), it's going to be a lot less quiet than living near I-95/Route 1 towards the shoreline.
The challenge is that it may be difficult to find a pastoral, rural, farm-like New England house in both towns. However, both towns seem to hit your requirements on your other needs:
Both offer a commute to Meriden in 45 minutes or less (and your husband would be going against rush hour traffic both ways).
Both have a great sense of town community - especially Milford as they throw a lot of Summer Community events in the Downtown Area.
Both towns have access to the Metro-North Rail which allow you to get into NYC.
Both towns have access to I-95 and the Merritt Parkway, where you can take the Whitestone or Throgs Neck over to LI via car. Just beware, as you know, traffic going onto and off the island can be intense.
Milford has more of a New England downtown than Fairfield, IMO. More "Mom & Pop" shops. However, both are absolutely walkable.
Lots of parks and greenery in both towns.
Both towns offer a good, if not great, public school experience. Fairfield edges out Milford here, but I wouldn't blink twice at either system.
You might get a better bang for the buck house in Milford, as Fairfield prices can be steep in the price range that you are looking for.
I'm not sure what the chicken ordinance is in Milford or Fairfield, but neighboring Stratford town code allows for chickens. I found this out a few years ago and was surprised.
If it weren't for the never-ending bridge construction, I, too, would suggest Guilford or Madison. They seem to be Fairfield and Milford's counterparts on the east side of New Haven. However, until the project's completion in a few years, it's tough to recommend since your husband would have to sit through nasty traffic since I-95 --> I-91 is the only main highway to Meriden (unless he learns backroads through Durham/Wallingford).
04-17-2013, 02:02 PM
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The only issue with Fairfield is the 300k/3BR requirement, that becomes pretty tough unless a condo is an option. It's an exceptional town though.
04-17-2013, 02:12 PM
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I think Orange fits nearly all of your requirements nicely. The only thing Orange does not have is a walkable downtown, but Milford's is just a few minutes away.
04-17-2013, 03:27 PM
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I am not sure how realistic the OP is being with their price given they want a home that only requires painting and wants to be in a more developed area. I do not think that the OP is going to find a decent house on 2 acres in Milford, Monroe, Branford, Guilford or Madison for $300,000. They may be able to find something in Litchfield, Bethlehem, Woodbury, Roxbury, Durham, Chester, Essex or Old Saybrook. The problem is that there are no Whole Foods near these communities and I am not sure what their other options to WF would be there. It might involve travel for shopping. I would also add Southbury and Oxford to the list of towns to consider. Jay
04-17-2013, 03:58 PM
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There appears to be a Whole Foods in Cheshire.
For your price range, I think you should consider staying in New Haven county, but as others have said, it'll be impossible to accommodate all the things you want.
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Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)