[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

It can for some. And it lessens the suffering of many, most of who are innocent children.

As someone who has a family member who was permanently impacted by the poor health care in one of those Red states, I see the importance of paying for decent healthcare for everyone. My family member is now permanently disabled and a burden to taxpayers all because the doctors refused to test her for years. When they finally did test her, it turned out she had a treatable disease that she had been saying it was for years. Unfortunately by that time her condition was too far along to be altered.

I have another friend who also had a series of medical problems topped by a very serious infection. She lives here in Connecticut. She was near death but got excellent care at Yale. She was there for 10 months but is now home and is starting to look for work. Soon she will be back close to normal and paying taxes instead of being a drain on taxpayers. Jay

I’m curious as to how the “blue state way” lessens the suffering when compared to the “red state way”.

Your experiences are anecdotal, and I have plenty of anecdotal experience myself. A CT doctor failed to properly diagnose my then infant relative, nearly causing his death. An out of state doctor saved his life. Even with myself, a doctor at a southwestern CT hospital also failed to properly diagnose a condition, ultimately making it much worse and difficult to treat. I have also had great experiences at CT hospitals, and great experiences at GW hospital in DC.

The point is it very much depends on specific condition the type of medical care you’ll receive.

[wetnewspaper]

If we look to the data, health and education outcomes and quality of life are much worse in red states across the board. There's no debate.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

I’m curious as to how the “blue state way” lessens the suffering when compared to the “red state way”.

Your experiences are anecdotal, and I have plenty of anecdotal experience myself. A CT doctor failed to properly diagnose my then infant relative, nearly causing his death. An out of state doctor saved his life. Even with myself, a doctor at a southwestern CT hospital also failed to properly diagnose a condition, ultimately making it much worse and difficult to treat. I have also had great experiences at CT hospitals, and great experiences at GW hospital in DC.

The point is it very much depends on specific condition the type of medical care you’ll receive.

What does that have to do with Medicaid? In the southern red states, a huge fraction of the population has no health insurance at all. The ones who do qualify for Medicaid have very limited access to health services and very strict caps on what can be spent on them. You get sick, you die. You seem to be writing that you have private health insurance and picked your physician poorly.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

I’m curious as to how the “blue state way” lessens the suffering when compared to the “red state way”.

Your experiences are anecdotal, and I have plenty of anecdotal experience myself. A CT doctor failed to properly diagnose my then infant relative, nearly causing his death. An out of state doctor saved his life. Even with myself, a doctor at a southwestern CT hospital also failed to properly diagnose a condition, ultimately making it much worse and difficult to treat. I have also had great experiences at CT hospitals, and great experiences at GW hospital in DC.

The point is it very much depends on specific condition the type of medical care you’ll receive.

Was the child on public assistance? That is what we are talking about here.

Yes, my experiences are anecdotal but they are what I see a lot. That is why Connecticut is considered one of the healthiest states in the country and the worse tend to be Red states. Jay

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...he-us?slide=11

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-for-2018.html

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...ealth-rankings

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Was the child on public assistance? That is what we are talking about here.

Yes, my experiences are anecdotal but they are what I see a lot. That is why Connecticut is considered one of the healthiest states in the country and the worse tend to be Red states. Jay

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...he-us?slide=11

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-for-2018.html

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...ealth-rankings

See below re: HDI.

Originally Posted by GeoffD

What does that have to do with Medicaid? In the southern red states, a huge fraction of the population has no health insurance at all. The ones who do qualify for Medicaid have very limited access to health services and very strict caps on what can be spent on them. You get sick, you die. You seem to be writing that you have private health insurance and picked your physician poorly.

This was in response to Jay’s post, which he’s discussed before, and has more to do with what he views as access to quality physicians. In fact, he specifically stated his family member’s deteriorating condition was due to malpractice.

I’m still waiting for the answer to my question re: generational poverty in blue vs red states.

Originally Posted by wetnewspaper

If we look to the data, health and education outcomes and quality of life are much worse in red states across the board. There's no debate.

You have to look deeper than that. Maybe overall, yes, but in the red state metro areas, where most of the population is, healthcare (and a lot of other QOL issues) are no different than in CT.

You can see here, the counties with the highest Human Development Index are clustered around population centers, and the lowest being sparsely populated regions with limited access to healthcare. Even in those red states Connecticans love to continuously bash, the quality of life is very high in and around populated metro areas:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...s_oc_1667x982/

(and for all the FL hating on here, HDI is incredibly high along the FL coasts).

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

See below re: HDI.



This was in response to Jay’s post, which he’s discussed before, and has more to do with what he views as access to quality physicians. In fact, he specifically stated his family member’s deteriorating condition was due to malpractice.

I’m still waiting for the answer to my question re: generational poverty in blue vs red states.



You have to look deeper than that. Maybe overall, yes, but in the red state metro areas, where most of the population is, healthcare (and a lot of other QOL issues) are no different than in CT.

You can see here, the counties with the highest Human Development Index are clustered around population centers, and the lowest being sparsely populated regions with limited access to healthcare. Even in those red states Connecticans love to continuously bash, the quality of life is very high in and around populated metro areas:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...s_oc_1667x982/

(and for all the FL hating on here, HDI is incredibly high along the FL coasts).

Except that the family member lived in a major metropolitan area of that state
(comparable in size to New Haven) and received horrible care there. I have other family that lives in a sparsely populated area and also got poor health care but that is not who I am talking about here. Jay

[JayCT]

Long time Connecticut manufacturer Harvey Hubbell is closing its Newtown factory. Along with the closing of their previously announced Bethel facility, they are putting nearly 200 people out of work. Not good. Jay

https://www.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/...y-14044360.php

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Except that the family member lived in a major metropolitan area of that state
(comparable in size to New Haven) and received horrible care there. I have other family that lives in a sparsely populated area and also got poor health care but that is not who I am talking about here. Jay

I remember this story - they lived in Ocala, which is basically the Willimantic of FL.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Long time Connecticut manufacturer Harvey Hubbell is closing its Newtown factory. Along with the closing of their previously announced Bethel facility, they are putting nearly 200 people out of work. Not good. Jay

https://www.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/...y-14044360.php

I saw this on Facebook. While it’s not good, the HQ will remain in CT and they have renewed their lease. Hopefully this means they will stay.

I belong to a Facebook group of former CT residents and residents who plan to leave (there are several thousand people in it) and I find myself being the JayCT of that group. They are negative Nelly’s who constantly complain about CT, post after post, prepping for a doomsday CT collapse. I’ll try to be rational when responding to them but boy am I attacked. Jay, you don’t have it so bad here.

[cttransplant85]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Long time Connecticut manufacturer Harvey Hubbell is closing its Newtown factory. Along with the closing of their previously announced Bethel facility, they are putting nearly 200 people out of work. Not good. Jay

https://www.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/...y-14044360.php

The first step is our lawmakers admitting we have a business competitiveness problem. Ned is from the private sector, he knows this!