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Old 08-19-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Malloy is more concerned about giving tax
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: CT
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How would this work?

There is no magic involved so the private company would have to be saving money somewhere either from lower headcount, less pay for employees, reduced administrative costs, etc.

The idea that a private company can generate MORE jobs while proving better wages than the state would mean all of the savings is solely from administration or procurement.
A nonprofit can save millions in taxes that another corporation would be responsible for. They also don't have shareholders and their commitment to other investors is not as cut throat. They also usually care more since they exist to serve the purpose for which they are granted their tax exempt status (usually is key word)
 
Old 08-19-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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That woman is incredibly misinformed and does not speak for every one. Whatever savings is realized in the future by these cuts will be funneled to the state's General Fund and will not be used to help the disabled. The state has already done this in the past when funds were cut for these programs.

Also, the staff at these group homes and other programs keep changing because of LOW WAGES. Some of these jobs only pay $12 an hour or less and require BS degrees. Who the hell is going to work for that pay ? The only people who are taking these jobs are the truly desperate and/or new graduates who are looking to get work experience.

IF the state wanted to save money they should consider paying caregivers (such as parents or close relatives) wages to take care of their disabled family member(s) at home. New York state does this I believe and pays up to $18 an hour.

Services for the disabled are one of the things that should NEVER be cut IMO. And they especially should never be privatized because a for profit business is going to cut corners to make that profit.

Services for the disabled are not welfare and should never be included in the same sentence. At least people on welfare for the most part, even if the overall percentage is low, have the chance to get off of welfare.
Did you see the piece? The woman has four adult children in group homes and seemed to be educated and knowledgable of the system. I am not saying you are entirely wrong but the state has to find a way to do more with less and if that means privatizing services, then we have little choice. Jay
 
Old 08-19-2016, 06:24 PM
 
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A nonprofit can save millions in taxes that another corporation would be responsible for. They also don't have shareholders and their commitment to other investors is not as cut throat. They also usually care more since they exist to serve the purpose for which they are granted their tax exempt status (usually is key word)
Nonprofits though are restrained by grants, donations, and most seeking care are on Statw Insurance. The State is cutting funds to health providers in regards to State Insurance.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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Did you see the piece? The woman has four adult children in group homes and seemed to be educated and knowledgable of the system. I am not saying you are entirely wrong but the state has to find a way to do more with less and if that means privatizing services, then we have little choice. Jay
State should pour money into law enforcement/judicial services, transportation, DMHAS/DCF, Veteran Services, and public health services.
 
Old 08-20-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Malloy is more concerned about giving tax
Incentives to greedy corporations instread
The biggest boost to middle income Americans and by extension, people in CT, would be a CUT to corporate taxes. Corporations aren't evil or monolithic structures, they are in fact made up of individual PEOPLE. The biggest false premise is that of the "evil" corporation. What becomes an unholy alliance is when government becomes so big that only giant corporations can CRONY up to that govt and get special favors. But that is a direct result of oversized government as the gatekeeper.
 
Old 08-20-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Did you see the piece? The woman has four adult children in group homes and seemed to be educated and knowledgable of the system. I am not saying you are entirely wrong but the state has to find a way to do more with less and if that means privatizing services, then we have little choice. Jay
You don't understand. This woman may know how the staff and programs work, but she doesn't have a clue how Govt finance and budgeting works. She thinks that savings realized from cutting from the DSS budget will go back into the DSS budget to be used in other areas. For example, savings from group homes will be allocated to day programs.

However, Govt budgeting doesn't work this way. Any savings realized goes into the general fund to help balance the budget. Malloy et al could have used money from other areas to shore up the DSS budget but chose not too. Malloy et al has been cutting the DSS budget for at least the last 5 years though so this isn't something new.

DSS also gets hit twice since a lot of people using these services are covered by medicaid and that budget keeps getting hit every year too.

First thing I would do to fix this situation is take the $22 million back from Bridge water. That give away is a ****ing insult to all the people of CT.
 
Old 08-21-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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Default Praxair looking to merge: Job cuts in CT looming?

Aside from redundancies, it's unlikely that German company Linde will be OK to move its HQ to the US:

Gas suppliers Praxair, Linde hold merger talks | Reuters

Could this be a case of another company packing up?
 
Old 08-21-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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How many Ct employees do they have?
 
Old 08-21-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Praxair's HQ is in Danbury btw
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