[nep321]

Originally Posted by AnonChick

Erm, no, it's not a boondoggle. Maybe you're not understanding what that term means.

The artist in the first article was paid less than $30,000 for an artistic mural. This wasn't some teenage graffiti painter, it's someone who earns his living as an artist. $30,000 is not an unrealistic amount of money to spend on commissioned artwork created by a professional artist. Nor is it taking longer than expected, or costing more than the original quote. It might not fit your idea of money well spent, but there are lots of things the government spends money on that I think they could ditch in favor of other things. That doesn't make these things a waste of money. It just makes me not like them.

$30k to help make a lousy neighborhood just a little less lousy, in exchange for the publicity, which is further in exchange for informing the people who live there that "you can get insurance, don't forget - and here's how"...I'd say that's a good investment.

They could've spent it on tacky billboards and the sides of the city buses and newspaper inserts. Instead, they sent the message directly to the people who will be most affected by it.

Okay but still....the whole mural reeks of government propaganda. Especially when Obama's face is going to be on it. I could see if it was like a national monument such as Mount Rushmore or something like that. But to plaster a current president's face, funded by the state government at that, in order to promote a new law that's extremely controversial is total propaganda. Regardless of which neighborhood it's in or who's painting it.

I admit that I voted for Obama in 2012, but those low income people in such neighborhoods believe that Obama is their savior, which is just sad.

[DarkWolf]

Originally Posted by nep321

Okay but still....the whole mural reeks of government propaganda. Especially when Obama's face is going to be on it. I could see if it was like a national monument such as Mount Rushmore or something like that. But to plaster a current president's face, funded by the state government at that, in order to promote a new law that's extremely controversial is total propaganda. Regardless of which neighborhood it's in or who's painting it.

I admit that I voted for Obama in 2012, but those low income people in such neighborhoods believe that Obama is their savior, which is just sad.

How would you know that? Would it shock you that hes no longer popular with Gen Y or African Americans....and its been like that for almost a year... Of Course such a "Open minded person like yourself would know that" Your just as bad as some of the people on this forum who think poor people only ride buses and not trains....its laughable and sad.... GET OUT more and open your mind a little more , stop stereotyping...

[dazzleman]

What else should we expect from this third world administration?

[nep321]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

How would you know that? Would it shock you that hes no longer popular with Gen Y or African Americans....and its been like that for almost a year... Of Course such a "Open minded person like yourself would know that" Your just as bad as some of the people on this forum who think poor people only ride buses and not trains....its laughable and sad.... GET OUT more and open your mind a little more , stop stereotyping...

Well, right now I live in Norwalk and see public busses all the time. And 90% of the riders are black or Latino. But Norwalk has about a 61% white population. So please explain to me why this phenomenon occurs. It was the same deal when I lived in Middletown.

[DarkWolf]

Originally Posted by nep321

Well, right now I live in Norwalk and see public busses all the time. And 90% of the riders are black or Latino. But Norwalk has about a 61% white population. So please explain to me why this phenomenon occurs. It was the same deal when I lived in Middletown.

Your stereotyping , in the Hartford , Stamford and New Haven divisions its very mixed , I can't say for Norwalk or Middletown but i'm sure its the same.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Your stereotyping , in the Hartford , Stamford and New Haven divisions its very mixed , I can't say for Norwalk or Middletown but i'm sure its the same.

No it's not. I see the buses every day in NH and it's 90% black and Latino.

The only exception is the free train shuttle and the university buses.

[AnonChick]

Stereotyping would be this:

"I see 90% blacks and latinos on the buses. Therefore, 90% of all blacks and latinos ride busses."

THAT is stereotyping. It's a subcategory of logical fallacies.

Around here, I'd say the percentage is less severe - maybe only 75-85% black and latino mixed. But generic white folks are definitely in the minority of the subset of "people who take the bus in our area."

[nep321]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Your stereotyping , in the Hartford , Stamford and New Haven divisions its very mixed , I can't say for Norwalk or Middletown but i'm sure its the same.

Idk what the heck you're talking about. Stereotyping is when you make a broad generalization on an entire group based on what you observed from a small amount of members of that group.

Your mentality seems to ignore facts and favor "compassion," even if it's not true. Had I made a statement such as "the residents of Easton, CT are 95% white," you wouldn't even care to respond. However, if I simply make a statement such as "85% of the population of Hartford is blacks and Latinos," it's a huge red flag to you and motivates you to respond on here. Weird. God forbid if a white person makes an observational statement about a non-white race.

I'm not sure you understand what racism really is. Racism is irrational distaste for people of a certain race. For example, I know a guy in Charlotte who refuses to be serviced by a black dentist or doctor. He actually asks to switch to a white doctor. Or, if he's looking to buy a home, he won't live in it if he found out that the previous occupants were black. And, he said that the entire country's problems would be solved if we shipped all black people back to Africa. Stuff like THAT is racism. But saying "90% of the ridership of CTransit busses are minorities" isn't racist at all. It's observational.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by nep321

Idk what the heck you're talking about. Stereotyping is when you make a broad generalization on an entire group based on what you observed from a small amount of members of that group.

Your mentality seems to ignore facts and favor "compassion," even if it's not true. Had I made a statement such as "the residents of Easton, CT are 95% white," you wouldn't even care to respond. However, if I simply make a statement such as "85% of the population of Hartford is blacks and Latinos," it's a huge red flag to you and motivates you to respond on here. Weird. God forbid if a white person makes an observational statement about a non-white race.

I'm not sure you understand what racism really is. Racism is irrational distaste for people of a certain race. For example, I know a guy in Charlotte who refuses to be serviced by a black dentist or doctor. He actually asks to switch to a white doctor. Or, if he's looking to buy a home, he won't live in it if he found out that the previous occupants were black. And, he said that the entire country's problems would be solved if we shipped all black people back to Africa. Stuff like THAT is racism. But saying "90% of the ridership of CTransit busses are minorities" isn't racist at all. It's observational.

I agree. Facts can never be racist. They are just facts.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

How would you know that? Would it shock you that hes no longer popular with Gen Y or African Americans....and its been like that for almost a year... Of Course such a "Open minded person like yourself would know that" Your just as bad as some of the people on this forum who think poor people only ride buses and not trains....its laughable and sad.... GET OUT more and open your mind a little more , stop stereotyping...

His popularity among blacks dropped from 92% to 83%. That's still pretty popular by any measure.

His popularity with me is 0%.