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Old 06-03-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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Each day when you look at the demographic of people who work in downtown Hartford versus the demographic of north Main Street Hartford

You look at who rides the busses and who commutes

You look at inequalities of mill rates in Hartford and Bridgeport versus lowest mill rates being in Greenwich?

This isn't right. How come the poor minority groups aren't more vocal about correcting injustices in this state? They are taking it better than they should. The school district segregation is also bothersome

Yes it's not racial segregation by law and nothing at all representing the Jim Crow south, it isn't deliberate but in a way it is deliberate ...people are well aware of what I'm talking about...and the inaction is telling

In answer to why make this a race issue, it's that I believe racial consciousness to correct a wrong is an exception to where racial profiling does need to be examined. If there is empirical evidence of an economic divide on mostly racial lines, then pretending this isn't there is not going to end racial injustice
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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Its economic, not racial.
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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Each day when you look at the demographic of people who work in downtown Hartford versus the demographic of north Main Street Hartford

You look at who rides the busses and who commutes

You look at inequalities of mill rates in Hartford and Bridgeport versus lowest mill rates being in Greenwich?

This isn't right. How come the poor minority groups aren't more vocal about correcting injustices in this state? They are taking it better than they should. The school district segregation is also bothersome

Yes it's not racial segregation by law and nothing at all representing the Jim Crow south, it isn't deliberate but in a way it is deliberate ...people are well aware of what I'm talking about...and the inaction is telling

In answer to why make this a race issue, it's that I believe racial consciousness to correct a wrong is an exception to where racial profiling does need to be examined. If there is empirical evidence of an economic divide on mostly racial lines, then pretending this isn't there is not going to end racial injustice
Okay I'll bite. First off, let's dial down the hyperbole. There is no great conspiracy or injustice at play.

Buses service predominately densely populated areas such as inner cities. Our urban neighborhoods and similar throughout the US generally have larger minority populations. Is it then a surprise that urban bus riders reflect the demographics of their communities at large?

With respect to taxes and mill rates, the wealthy suburbs already support the cities disproportionately. Your assumption is categorically false. Greenwich, New Canaan, Avon and other towns send meaningful tax dollars to Hartford and receive well less than 100% of the dollar back. However the Hartford and New Haven's of the world see additional revenue from the more well heeled municipalities.

If you want a tangible example: Bridgeport schools are funded 75% by the state (and via wealthier communities) while Weston is 98% funded by town residents!

http://www.bridgeportedu.com/Board/d...escription.pdf
http://www.westonps.org/uploaded/201...e-10302012.pdf

As for higher mill rates, our cities have been terrible stewards of capital. How many mayors have we seen removed from office for embezzlement, fraud and other financial crimes? They run budgets into the ground and I should not have to bail them (or city residents) out for their ill ways.

With respect to school makeup--- our schools reflect the town/city makeup. We should not be forced to dilute educational experience in schools by mandating students from out of town (and may not value education in the same light) attend in order to show more balanced demographics. Typical liberal drivel.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Okay I'll bite. First off, let's dial down the hyperbole. There is no great conspiracy or injustice at play.

Buses service predominately densely populated areas such as inner cities. Our urban neighborhoods and similar throughout the US generally have larger minority populations. Is it then a surprise that urban bus riders reflect the demographics of their communities at large?

With respect to taxes and mill rates, the wealthy suburbs already support the cities disproportionately. Your assumption is categorically false. Greenwich, New Canaan, Avon and other towns send meaningful tax dollars to Hartford and receive well less than 100% of the dollar back. However the Hartford and New Haven's of the world see additional revenue from the more well heeled municipalities.

If you want a tangible example: Bridgeport schools are funded 75% by the state (and via wealthier communities) while Weston is 98% funded by town residents!

http://www.bridgeportedu.com/Board/d...escription.pdf
http://www.westonps.org/uploaded/201...e-10302012.pdf

As for higher mill rates, our cities have been terrible stewards of capital. How many mayors have we seen removed from office for embezzlement, fraud and other financial crimes? They run budgets into the ground and I should not have to bail them (or city residents) out for their ill ways.

With respect to school makeup--- our schools reflect the town/city makeup. We should not be forced to dilute educational experience in schools by mandating students from out of town (and may not value education in the same light) attend in order to show more balanced demographics. Typical liberal drivel.
did you vote for Malloy?
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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did you vote for Malloy?
Is this relevant?
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Its economic, not racial.
This.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Is this relevant?
when you call racial diversity "typical liberal drivel" it is
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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when you call racial diversity "typical liberal drivel" it is
Not a registered republican (sorry to rain on your parade)
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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okay i'll bite. First off, let's dial down the hyperbole. There is no great conspiracy or injustice at play.

Buses service predominately densely populated areas such as inner cities. Our urban neighborhoods and similar throughout the us generally have larger minority populations. Is it then a surprise that urban bus riders reflect the demographics of their communities at large?

With respect to taxes and mill rates, the wealthy suburbs already support the cities disproportionately. Your assumption is categorically false. Greenwich, new canaan, avon and other towns send meaningful tax dollars to hartford and receive well less than 100% of the dollar back. However the hartford and new haven's of the world see additional revenue from the more well heeled municipalities.

If you want a tangible example: Bridgeport schools are funded 75% by the state (and via wealthier communities) while weston is 98% funded by town residents!

http://www.bridgeportedu.com/board/d...escription.pdf
http://www.westonps.org/uploaded/201...e-10302012.pdf

as for higher mill rates, our cities have been terrible stewards of capital. How many mayors have we seen removed from office for embezzlement, fraud and other financial crimes? They run budgets into the ground and i should not have to bail them (or city residents) out for their ill ways.

With respect to school makeup--- our schools reflect the town/city makeup. We should not be forced to dilute educational experience in schools by mandating students from out of town (and may not value education in the same light) attend in order to show more balanced demographics. Typical liberal drivel.
+1.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Not a registered republican (sorry to rain on your parade)
right so you voted for Malloy yet think racial diversity is typical liberal drivel. ok understood
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