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That's about to change. Visconti just dropped out and supported Foley! FTW!
Possibly: Visconti's campaign saw they're going nowhere and figured where his votes would go if he dropped out probably in Foley's favor, just a guess.
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from NH Register obama on CT Soil
Good! GOOOOOOOD! Welcome to CT Mr. POTUS as you'll make it that much easier to get Foley elected!
This seriously is not true. We've owned a boat for 15 years, registered in CT and docked on candlewood lake at the New Fairfield town marina. There is no personal property tax paid on it. Just the annual registration fee. The only property tax we have to pay is real estate and motor vehicle.
Edit - I just pulled out this years registration. It cost 82.50 to register our boat in 2014. It's a 24' bow rider/pleasure type-boat. It's a comparable amount that we pay to register our cars, but unlike our cars, we don't have to pay the town of New Fairfield an extra annual personal property tax based on the mill-rate like we have to do for our cars...Just the annual registration fee to the state, like you do for cars.
Further Edit: I just took a look at my husband's SUV registration that came in the mail this week. Boat registration is not comparable, it's actually a lot less! His truck reg. is 186.40! Holy geez!!
That is news to me. My sister owns a boat so I will have to ask her. I don't see how towns would forgo a taxing opportunity like that. Also, if this is true it doesn't make sense that boats are registered in other states. Perhaps they are doing it to avoid sales tax? Florida has sales tax and Delaware has a 3.75% tax on vehicles/boat so that doesn't really make sense. Registering in New Hampshire would make more sense, but I can't say I've seen a boat with a NH registration.
Maybe there is a size limit? I see plenty of 15 foot fishing boats.
That is news to me. My sister owns a boat so I will have to ask her. I don't see how towns would forgo a taxing opportunity like that. Also, if this is true it doesn't make sense that boats are registered in other states. Perhaps they are doing it to avoid sales tax? Florida has sales tax and Delaware has a 3.75% tax on vehicles/boat so that doesn't really make sense. Registering in New Hampshire would make more sense, but I can't say I've seen a boat with a NH registration.
Maybe there is a size limit? I see plenty of 15 foot fishing boats.
This from the CT department of Revenue services website:
"Boat Registration Fees
There is an annual registration fee for boats in lieu of a local property tax. For fee information, call the DMV at 1-800-842-8222 (Connecticut calls outside the Greater Hartford calling area only) or 860-263-5700 (from anywhere) or visit the DMV website at www.ct.gov/dmv and select Fees."
He wasn't? If not, then why did he write the Communist Manifesto? Why did he join the General Council of the First International?
Marx was many things. Brilliant in most. Amongst others he was also a Communist activist. And he wasn't joking when he agitated to overthrow Capitalism by violence.
I forgot about the First International, so I had to go look it up. Even after refreshing my memory I don't really see it. I agree he was an agitator to quash capitalism. I don't have the opinion he was against capitalism per se. I think he was sending out a warning against it and then explained why it doesn't work.
He wrote that the natural order of society would be capitalism, socialism, communism. And if a society went thru these three stages it would eventually start over with capitalism. I don't think any society on planet Earth has gone thru this cycle yet altho some have tried.
He also wrote that that the evolution of society could only be gained thru class struggle. What he called the Bourgeois and the Proletariat. In today's vocabulary one could say upper class vs lower class I suppose. He also wrote the the Proletariat would rise to power thru voting. That is the one true power we still have as a society (for now) There are only so many Bill Gates, but there are millions of regular class people (who vote).
I think with a person like Marx his works can be interpreted in many ways and we have different interpretations. I just wanted to write a few sentences on the subject since its rare that is name comes up in a forum and someone responds rationally as you did.
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I am confused, and maybe I am misunderstanding you. It sounds to me that you are making a moralistic argument -- that since Surplus Labor creates the Surplus Value, then this Surplus Value really belongs to Labor. Am I reading you correct?
My argument is -- what happens nowadays to the Surplus Value, which is owned by the capitalist?
When Federal Govt taxes this Surplus Value and re-allocates, re-directs it back into the economy, and furthermore even distributes it to specific and selective entities -- I can't tell you how this is very different from Marx's Socialism?
When the Govt re-distributes this Surplus Value discriminately -- this is practically Socialism.
The difference is -- is this Surplus Value redirected to the economy by the Capitalists or the Govt, in a targeted, specific, selective way?
I think we have a different definition of surplus value. So maybe I can paint a better picture. Marx wrote that unit sales price minus unit production costs equals surplus value. Part of unit production is labor which can be variable. (the other two material and overhead are not as variable). Out of the surplus value a business would have to pay expenses. In current business jargon this would be gross profit.
One thing to consider here is the time in which Marx lived. During his time there was no income tax nor business tax. After the business paid its expenses the remainder went to the owner (capitalist) Most of the taxes collected during his time were property tax and excise taxes.
If labor is variable then the capitalist could increase his earnings by increasing the surplus value which was gained by reducing labor costs. Marx also wrote that under this system the economy would increase and labor costs would decrease. This seems like an oxymoron, but is actually true.
What you wrote would make more sense to me if you wrote "surplus value after expenses is retained by the capitalist" This would give you taxable income which is now collected by the Govt and distributed.
Surplus value as Marx defined it is not collected or allocated by the Govt or by any other agency but only by the capitalist(s) himself.
To add a monkey wrench here though the capitalist(s) then can pay themselves dividends out of retained earnings* and pay 15% on those dividends whereas I as a W-2 wage earner pay more than 15% on my wages. I also get to pay payroll taxes on those W-2 wages which the capitalist(s) don't pay on dividends.
*in accounting terms "retained earnings" is the money left over for a business AFTER paying all expenses INCLUDING income taxes
As I said earlier Marx can be interpreted in various ways and IMO "surplus value" as Marx defined it is one of the most important tenets of his economic theory.
To tie this to CT politics I would say that "Labor" in today's society is not represented (except for some small unions) in politics in any meaningful way. We need (and this could actually start at a state level in CT) a political party that represents the workers and their interests.
The current politicians in CT or the nation do not represent the common citizen. The Republicans are a little bit more honest in that they say "we represent the rich and big business and don't care that you know it" Whereas the Democrats represent the rich and big business as well, but are still trying to hide it"
I hope I live long enough to see a third political party rise to power.
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On another note, I can't understand why people still have this stigma of not wanting to be called Socialist, or Marxist or even Communist. Its 2014, almost 2015.
It's taboo. It's irrational.
You can't have an intelligent conversation about this stuff without eye-balls bursting. Relax folks. It's not 1954.
It was cool to talk a little bit about Marx since usually anything with his name on it devolves quickly.
One thing I distinctly remember about Marx during college is his name came up in three classes that one would think are not related. Philosophy, Sociology, and Economics. Can't say that about many other people.
Are we better off with him in office? he's raised taxes, and, though I don't think he's affected me any way, I don't want to know what's to come from in the near fruture. what are your thoughts. You don't have to say if you're voting for him, but I just want to see what you think of him
Are we better off with him in office? he's raised taxes, and, though I don't think he's affected me any way, I don't want to know what's to come from in the near fruture. what are your thoughts. You don't have to say if you're voting for him, but I just want to see what you think of him
"What a difference a few months make. In February Dannel Malloy, the notably self-satisfied governor of Connecticut, was being buzzed about as a Democratic heavy-hitter. Candy Crowley even popped Malloy the presidential question on CNN. (He said no.)
Now it looks like, in addition to not being president in 2016, Malloy might not even be governor of Connecticut. A Wednesday Quinnipiac poll has Malloy tied with the same challenger he defeated in 2010. Quinnipiac last month actually had Republican challenger Tom Foley ahead by six points, and a poll from Rasmussen had Foley leading by seven.
This competitiveness has made Malloy vs. Foley the most interesting race of the 2014 season that no one is talking about. Connecticut is a progressive state and Malloy is as unalloyed a progressive as you’ll find. He enacted the largest tax increase in state history, signed the most sweeping gun-control bill ever, outlawed the death penalty, and shoved childcare workers into the waiting arms of the SEIU.
So why have his reelection hopes been sinking into Long Island Sound? Why is the Land of Steady Habits considering a break with its liberal tradition?
The biggest culprit is the tax increase, or rather the whole suite of tax increases, that Malloy signed into law in 2011. These included a hike in the state sales tax from 6 percent to 6.35 percent, an increase on income taxes for those making more than $100,000 a year, higher cigarette and alcohol taxes, a new luxury tax on expensive items, a cabaret tax on bars that play music, and the removal of tax exemptions on cheap footwear, nonprescription drugs, and yarn. (Woe to the politician who fiddles with the yarn tax.)
The new taxes amounted to $2.6 billion, far outweighing realistic state worker concessions and spending cuts. They were supposed to help close a $3.3 billion budget deficit. Of course, and with utter predictability, Connecticut quickly saw its tax receipts dry up, blowing a $300 million hole in the 2014 balance sheet. The state is now expected to log a $1.1 billion deficit in 2015.
Meanwhile the sledgehammer of tax increases bludgeoned Connecticut’s already-fragile economy. In 2011, the year the new taxes were implemented, Connecticut’s GDP shrank by 0.9 percent, and it’s remained anemic ever since. According to a University of Connecticut economic analysis in 2013, “Connecticut is one of the few states whose economy, whether measured in output or household income, is not close to its 2007 peak.” Couple that with the nation’s third highest tax burden, third highest energy costs, and fifth worst business environment, and you have a state charging its citizens a fortune in exchange for minimal economic expansion.
Connecticut’s chief executive, imitating America’s chief executive, keeps blaming his predecessor, the moderate Republican Jodi Rell. But as the Hartford Courant’s Kevin Rennie points out, at the end of Rell’s term in 2010 the economy was slowly regaining its luster. “In those 11 months under Rell, Connecticut saw 23,000 jobs created. In no year of Malloy’s term has Connecticut seen that level of job growth,” Rennie writes.
Connecticut’s economy isn’t the nation’s most shambolic – maybe No. 4 or 5. But unlike petro-state Alaska or coal-dependent West Virginia, Connecticut can’t blame circumstances beyond its control. It was a manufacturing powerhouse during the first half of the twnetieth century that transitioned to a service economy, within spitting distance of two major urban centers and boasting the sort of steepled autumn landscapes that Gilmore Girls fans crave and those of us who grew up in the Nutmeg State remember so fondly.
There’s only one culprit you can finger in Connecticut: decades of unrelenting progressive governance.
Those problems didn’t begin with Malloy, but he exacerbated them, and he did it with as tin an ear as you’ll find in politics. A former prosecutor and mayor of Stamford, he looks like a Tex Avery caricature of a supercilious liberal blogger. He has a habit of speaking to constituents like he’s substitute teaching a civics class of young students (at a recent town hall: “We have courts in this country. We have a legislative branch, an executive branch, and we have courts”). This has aroused public rage in many of Connecticut’s usually temperate residents, who have retaliated by publicly booing him at events ranging from a baseball game to an Obama rally."
Thanks for the link, I myself never liked him because he lied and is STILL lying.
"The last thing thing we will do is raise taxes"
"We are doing so well, everyone will get a $55 check....opps nevermind."
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What has Dan Malloy done for CT?
I myself never liked him because he lied and is STILL lying.
