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Old 03-19-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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And this will put a nice bow on what has been a extremely disappointing winter. Can't remember a winter this lame. Hopefully the spring and summer are cold for payback.

At least I don't have to see NBC30 troll the snow cold lovers anymore. They were an absolute disgrace this year.

 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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bust


https://twitter.com/EdValleeWx/statu...70045444038656
 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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But its not a bust to me...a bust is when a day before we have a model agreement and solid forecast and it never happens.

Until track forecasting is better , everything before 3 days out is just dreamland.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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But its not a bust to me...a bust is when a day before we have a model agreement and solid forecast and it never happens.

Until track forecasting is better , everything before 3 days out is just dreamland.
I agree, I think 12-36hrs should be the criteria of a bust. Before that its always said "it can change "

How about a bust too low?

Couple models showing a little more snow for Eastern CT now. Lol

https://twitter.com/DanLeonard_wx/st...54104664883200
 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Hmmm, 4-6" for Hartford now?

https://twitter.com/DanLeonard_wx/st...49985912889344
 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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I agree, I think 12-36hrs should be the criteria of a bust. Before that its always said "it can change "

How about a bust too low?

Couple models showing a little more snow for Eastern CT now. Lol

https://twitter.com/DanLeonard_wx/st...54104664883200
Ironically if the storm moved more west NOW..would that be a bust? That's a good point.

I guess from an individual forecast perspective, once the service has put out a snow total map, that is what they should be held to. If they are smart they would hold off till like you said about 36 hours before.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Hmm, maybe there will be surprises somewhere.. does Mohegan Sun have a webcam? I keep forgetting.

https://twitter.com/DanLeonard_wx/st...57289701900289
 
Old 03-19-2016, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Birch Mt - CT
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The NWS is discounting the CMC and NAM as outliers. As they say in their Scientific discussion, "it is not always wise to
swing the forecast with each model run."
 
Old 03-19-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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I am in Moodus/Colchester area and got an alert on my phone for 4-7 inches? Do you think that will happen?
 
Old 03-19-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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The NWS is discounting the CMC and NAM as outliers. As they say in their Scientific discussion, "it is not always wise to
swing the forecast with each model run."
100% agree. Only thing that could change is the edges. All storms wobble and shift as they move so there could be surprises for come in CT or central MA.


Looks like it was NWS Boston that said that.


NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
420 PM EDT SAT MAR 19 2016

HIGHLIGHTS...

* SNOWFALL FORECAST REMAINS AT A MODERATE CONFIDENCE

* POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL LIKELY CONFINED TO SOUTHEAST NEW ENGLAND

* WET SNOW ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST NEW ENGLAND MAY RESULT IN ISOLATED POWER OUTAGES/DOWNED TREE LIMBS

* ACROSS THE REST OF THE REGION...A PERIOD OF SNOW MAY OCCUR SUN NIGHT BUT GENERALLY NO MORE THAN A FEW INCHES ARE EXPECTED


OVERALL...

THIS CONTINUES TO BE A DIFFICULT...NUANCED FORECAST. 19/12Z
GUIDANCE HAS TAKEN A SLIGHT WESTWARD SHIFT...ENDING THEIR TREND
FOR A MORE OFFSHORE STORM. WHILE MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SUITE NOW
AGREES ON A TRACK JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK...THERE
ARE STILL TIMING ISSUES TO BE WORKED OUT. SINCE THIS IS A LATE
WINTER/EARLY SPRING STORM...OUR SNOWFALL WOULD BE MAXIMIZED IF IT
FALLS MAINLY AT NIGHT.

19/12Z NAM LOOKS LIKE AN OUTLIER...WITH A VERY DEEP LOW PRESSURE
AND MUCH SLOWER TIMING. THE CMC ALSO LOOKS TO BE AN OUTLIER...
TAKING ITS LOW TRACK WELL WEST...THEN CATCHING UP WITH THE OTHER
SOLUTIONS OVER THE GULF OF MAINE. GFS AND ECMWF HAVE PRETTY MUCH
STAYED THE COURSE...SO THESE SOURCES BECAME MOST OF THE BASIS FOR
THIS FORECAST. AS WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY... IT IS NOT ALWAYS WISE TO
SWING THE FORECAST WITH EACH MODEL RUN. WILL CONTINUE TO JUST
SUBTLY TREND THE PREVIOUS FORECAST WITH THE LATEST GUIDANCE.

1. SOUTHEAST NEW ENGLAND WET SNOW POTENTIAL...

EXCELLENT BANDING SIGNATURE WITHIN THE 19/12Z GUIDANCE. PRESENTLY
THINKING THIS BANDING WILL REACH SOUTHEAST MA...MAINLY BETWEEN THE
I-95 CORRIDOR AND THE CAPE COD CANAL. STILL SOME POTENTIAL FOR
THIS BAND TO TRACK FARTHER WEST...BUT IT IS DIMINISHING WITH TIME.
THERE SHOULD BE A PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOWFALL...POSSIBLY
IMPACTING THE MONDAY MORNING COMMUTE ACROSS EASTERN MA INTO RI.

A CONCERN WILL BE FOR SNOWFALL ACROSS NANTUCKET....THE VINEYARD AND
BLOCK ISLAND. WATER TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE LOWER 40S. THERE ARE
ALSO SOME SIGNALS...PARTICULARLY FOR NANTUCKET...OF 925 MB AND 850
MB TEMPERATURES GETTING CLOSE TO...OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE FREEZING. A
SLIGHT EASTWARD JOG OF ONLY 25 MILES OF SO WOULD KEEP THE ISLANDS
COMPLETELY WITHIN THE COLDER AIR...AND INCREASE SNOW TOTALS.

DECIDED TO CONTINUE THE WATCH AS PREVIOUSLY ISSUED. AN ARGUMENT
COULD BE MADE TO EXPAND IT BACK INTO ESSEX COUNTY...AND PERHAPS
BLOCK ISLAND. JUST DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN WARNING-LEVEL
SNOWFALL FOR THOSE AREAS TO DO SO.

2. ACROSS THE REST OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...

BASED ON THE LATEST GUIDANCE TRENDS...STILL APPEARS THE RISK OF
HEAVY SNOW WILL BE CONFINED TO SOUTHEAST NEW ENGLAND. STILL
EXPECTING AT LEAST SOME SNOW OUTSIDE OF I-495. NOT A LOT OF
CONFIDENCE IN WHERE EXACTLY THE WESTERN EDGE WILL BE. NOT
EXPECTING A MAJOR SNOWFALL. THAT SAID...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES
MAY BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHEAST CT AND CENTRAL MA.

3. THE THREAT FOR COASTAL FLOODING AND THE NEED FOR WIND
HEADLINES REMAINS LOW AT THIS POINT. WILL STILL HAVE TO WATCH THE
POTENTIAL FOR 30 TO 40 MPH WIND GUSTS ACROSS THE CAPE/ISLANDS. IF
HIGHER AMOUNTS OF WET SNOW ARE REALIZED...THAT COULD RESULT IN
MORE TREE DAMAGE AND ISOLATED POWER OUTAGES.
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