[CTartist]

http://www3.parenting.com/child/top-...ucation-2014/2

[BPt111]

Originally Posted by CTartist

//www.city-data.com/forum/newth...newthread&f=11

Let me guess Hartford, New Haven, Waterbury, Bridgeport but where is the article

[CTartist]

Sorry I pasted the wrong link somehow. The correct link is in now.

[Sigequinox]

For those who don't want to click all the annoying slides (I hate this type of website design), the cities are

#5 New Haven
#2 Bridge-poh

[RunD1987]

I have a few friends that sub in the cities of CT. A lot of complaints are too many student's, schools have money or don't so classes lack what they need, a lot of teacher's buy supplies for the class, and some of those teachers buy supplies for their student's because they can't afford it.

Big issue is language some kid's 4th/5th grade can't speak English difficult to teach in English to speaking English student's. Technology so many kids have cell phones they are difficult to control loud music, phone calls, video's, and text in class.

Difficult to discipline student's due to not enough staff and changes made to what warrants discipline for student's.

Then parents they are either there or they are THERE.

Do think Student's should be able to comprehend English by 4th grade and take ESL classes till they could. Vice versa think English speaking student's should learn Spanish.

[GeoffD]

I can't speak for Connecticut but the failed cities I know all have the same things in common. Tons on single parent households with Section 8 housing and a very high poverty level. Layer in a large immigrant population with minimal English skills. No high value-add jobs because the labor pool lacks 21st century job skills. That causes both the residential and commercial real estate prices to be very depressed. The school system is funded by property taxes and that low tax base straps the city for funds for the schools. Then layer on the reality that a huge fraction of the students in the public school system are special needs and the city has unfunded state mandates to spend money on the special needs students. Single parent households living in poverty don't emphasize education so the school is a war zone full of behavior problems and unengaged students. Nobody in their right mind with children would pick one of those cities to educate their children. They socioeconomically self-segregate to towns with better school systems. The people who live there have no other option.

The way you fix this is to stop using property taxes to fund public education and make regional schools that have competitive admissions. Segregate along academic lines rather than economic lines. The basket case children attend the least competitive regional school and the bright ones who want to learn are allowed to do so.

Since affluent people in gold-plated towns control the political process, this has zero chance of ever happening but it's how you fix it. I grew up in a gold-plated town with an outstanding public school system so I benefited from the system. That doesn't mean it's fair.

[RunD1987]

How does the mill rate incorporate into school funding? Most of these cities have a 70% or higher mill rate highest tax rates in Conneticut.

[BPt111]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

How does the mill rate incorporate into school funding? Most of these cities have a 70% or higher mill rate highest tax rates in Conneticut.

Bridgeport receive less funding than Hartford and New Haven in term of school funding.

[RunD1987]

^^^ I hear that a lot. Also figure Hartford gets more federal funding due to that new approach to learning they been incorporating over the year's.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

How does the mill rate incorporate into school funding? Most of these cities have a 70% or higher mill rate highest tax rates in Conneticut.

Funding isn't necessarily terrible. It's kids from poverty that don't want to learn, because they're not influenced to want to learn at home. These schools pay their teachers decently and have good infrastructure. New Haven has been in the process of rebuilding ALL their schools.

Also, lower property value, higher birth rate, more services, public housing, etc. = high taxes.