09-07-2015, 10:19 AM
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But how do those schools compare to Yale, Harvard, Brown, MIT, Dartmouth or northeastern. These are where the top students from New England go, not necessarily a state school. The only comparable school in the southeast is Duke and sorry but it still pales in comparison. Jay
Apples to Apples my friend...public schools to public schools...
I went to one of the schools you cite ... for my BS and MBA... so I wont denigrate them ....but ... You put Northeastern in with the wild bunch ? HUH ?...lol
The schools you cite ... draw top students from all over the country and world ..frankly ... a rather small minority comes from New England... I recruit for Harvard here in South Cackalacky.... so's I got dem numba's.
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09-07-2015, 11:37 AM
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But how do those schools compare to Yale, Harvard, Brown, MIT, Dartmouth or northeastern. These are where the top students from New England go, not necessarily a state school. The only comparable school in the southeast is Duke and sorry but it still pales in comparison. Jay
What? Those are all private schools that recruit students from all over the world. Also, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, Washington, Tulane, Georgetown and Wake Forest Universities are a few more I can think of off the top of my head.
Anyway, percentage of students from New England that attend:
Harvard-17% (17% south also)
Yale-cant find new england data
Dartmouth-18%
MIT-12% (West and Southeast have highest matriculation)
09-07-2015, 01:54 PM
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Apples to Apples my friend...public schools to public schools...
It's not a state school v private issue.
University of Texas draws from all over the world, as does the Univ of California System, UVA and dozens of others. Cornel is a state school hybrid.
There are good schools all over but certainly a concentration of among the best here in the Northeast. I don't see how this is debatable?
09-07-2015, 02:31 PM
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Duke most definitely does not pale in comparison. Perhaps 15 years ago that might- might- have been the case but today it is a top ten school. While I would never place it above Harvard or Yale, these days it is widely regarded as slightly stronger than Brown and my own beloved Dartmouth. To the point that these schools are where the top students in New England go, these are also the schools where top students from everywhere go- or at least a very small percentage of the top students since these schools are ridiculously difficult to get into.
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But how do those schools compare to Yale, Harvard, Brown, MIT, Dartmouth or northeastern. These are where the top students from New England go, not necessarily a state school. The only comparable school in the southeast is Duke and sorry but it still pales in comparison. Jay
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Zero debate there. Between the Ivies, MIT, the service academies and the top liberal arts colleges, this region is well covered with elite academic institutions.
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There are good schools all over but certainly a concentration of among the best here in the Northeast. I don't see how this is debatable?
09-07-2015, 03:29 PM
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What? ...
I worded that poorly....Those percentages represent the composition of the student body, not the percent of students from NE that attend the schools.
09-07-2015, 04:32 PM
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Apples to Apples my friend...public schools to public schools...
The point I was making is that when it comes to colleges student in New England have a lot of choices so the top students do not necessarily go to state schools. A little different than in the southeast where there are fewer choices. And yes I include Northeastern which has been attracting the top students interested in STEM professions. If you read where the top students are going you will see Northeastern in the list. I was surprised too but they seem to be very actively pursuing them. Jay
09-07-2015, 04:35 PM
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Duke most definitely does not pale in comparison. Perhaps 15 years ago that might- might- have been the case but today it is a top ten school. While I would never place it above Harvard or Yale, these days it is widely regarded as slightly stronger than Brown and my own beloved Dartmouth. To the point that these schools are where the top students in New England go, these are also the schools where top students from everywhere go- or at least a very small percentage of the top students since these schools are ridiculously difficult to get into.
Sorry but I disagree. Have not been impressed by a number of Duke graduates that I have met. Can't say the same about the other schools I mentioned. Still it is a good school no doubt. Jay
09-07-2015, 05:03 PM
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The point I was making is that when it comes to colleges student in New England have a lot of choices so the top students do not necessarily go to state schools. A little different than in the southeast where there are fewer choices. And yes I include Northeastern which has been attracting the top students interested in STEM professions. If you read where the top students are going you will see Northeastern in the list. I was surprised too but they seem to be very actively pursuing them. Jay
I think the point most of us are trying to make is that you don't need to live in NE to attend these schools. Harvard, Yale and friends would all be equally fantastic if you transplanted them into South Carolina, Montana or anywhere else. The top students from New England would still go to them even though they're no longer in New England. Top students go to the top schools, regardless of where they're located.
09-07-2015, 07:21 PM
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I think the point most of us are trying to make is that you don't need to live in NE to attend these schools. Harvard, Yale and friends would all be equally fantastic if you transplanted them into South Carolina, Montana or anywhere else. The top students from New England would still go to them even though they're no longer in New England. Top students go to the top schools, regardless of where they're located.
I thought only kids from New Canaan, Darien, Avon, Farmington, Greenwich, Madison, Westport, Guilford, Ridgefield, Wilton, Redding, and Simsbury went to the top Ivy league schools. What do you mean they recruit globally??
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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