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Old 01-26-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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agreed - student/teacher ratio is one of the top indicators of school quality. Go through the top schools in the state vs the bottom and you'll find the Westports, Dariens and New Canaans have better ratios than Bridgeport, West Haven and East Haven.


The children in those top schools, on average, are much more intelligent and have higher IQ's.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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The children in those top schools, on average, are much more intelligent and have higher IQ's.
they come from much better environments and have a lot better access to things like computers, tablets, musical instruments and lessons, culturual enrichment activities, tutor availability for any areas of difficulty, as well as not having to worry about safety and security on a daily basis.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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they come from much better environments and have a lot better access to things like computers, tablets, musical instruments and lessons, culturual enrichment activities, tutor availability for any areas of difficulty, as well as not having to worry about safety and security on a daily basis.
and higher IQs.

Even if you gave/give these items to the ghetto kids they won't and don't achieve nearly as well.


Not every child going to the wealthier schools does well either. There are many kids achieving average or even below average though they come from wealthy and prosperous homes- and they are at the same school so the learning is the same.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Maybe not easy but it can be done slowly and steadily.

Many of these children are never going to get farther than cheap labor jobs and it's a waste of time and money to assume more. A basic high school education/reading writing is enough.

A large number are already graduating undereducated and no amount of training will remedy it.


They should start out by lowering property taxes and then figure out how much of the budget to be cut.
So you want to give up on children because they come from poor families? What a cruel and short-sighted thing to say and do. Some of this country's brightest minds have come out of these urban areas. This would do nothing more than create even more problems with our cities. Plus I am not even sure it is legal. Jay
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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So you want to give up on children because they come from poor families? What a cruel and short-sighted thing to say and do. Some of this country's brightest minds have come out of these urban areas. This would do nothing more than create even more problems with our cities. Plus I am not even sure it is legal. Jay
Not giving up on them just think they need to be directed to where their talents and abilities lie-and they are not in the academic sphere!

A large percentage (the majority actually) of the population is only qualified for cheap labor tasks and this is becoming even more apparent as the world/US economy continues to advance technologically.

There are too many children being taught with the mistaken belief that they are going to grow up to be "white collared" professionals as long as they "stay in school" and just about everyone should go to college.

Only people who have real intellectual gifts should go and advance, regardless of the environment they come from. And it can be determined by the teens who really has talent and who are hopeless cases.

The number of bright minds coming out of the "urban areas" is much lower in proportion and as a percentage to those coming from the non ghetto areas. If affirmative action didn't exist then that number would even be lower.

They will all find out anyway when they grow up and are adults. University's and private schools already select on the basis of merit. So do high schools and middle school depending on advanced classes.

There is nothing wrong with work and most of these kids will end up going into jobs or trades that require little education.
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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Not giving up on them just think they need to be directed to where their talents and abilities lie-and they are not in the academic sphere!

A large percentage (the majority actually) of the population is only qualified for cheap labor tasks and this is becoming even more apparent as the world/US economy continues to advance technologically.

There are too many children being taught with the mistaken belief that they are going to grow up to be "white collared" professionals as long as they "stay in school" and just about everyone should go to college.

Only people who have real intellectual gifts should go and advance, regardless of the environment they come from. And it can be determined by the teens who really has talent and who are hopeless cases.

The number of bright minds coming out of the "urban areas" is much lower in proportion and as a percentage to those coming from the non ghetto areas. If affirmative action didn't exist then that number would even be lower.

They will all find out anyway when they grow up and are adults. University's and private schools already select on the basis of merit. So do high schools and middle school depending on advanced classes.

There is nothing wrong with work and most of these kids will end up going into jobs or trades that require little education.
You are assuming all of these children are not bright enough for a white collar job. That is not true. That is a complete disservice to them and to our education system. It is also prejudice. The fact is that there are certain standards for education that must be met whether you like it or not. That means we cannot just cut budgets and eliminate programs that you feel are not worth it. Fortunately that is not your decision. Jay
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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This thread has gone off topic. Please return to the topic of the OP. JayCT, Moderator
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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You are assuming all of these children are not bright enough for a white collar job. That is not true. That is a complete disservice to them and to our education system. It is also prejudice. The fact is that there are certain standards for education that must be met whether you like it or not. That means we cannot just cut budgets and eliminate programs that you feel are not worth it. Fortunately that is not your decision. Jay
Not all, but the majority- definitely!


Since it's off topic I sent you my response via PM

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Old 06-15-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Bridgeport has highest property tax out of most populated cities in all 50 states


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Old 06-15-2016, 11:11 AM
 
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Bridgeport has highest property tax out of most populated cities in all 50 states


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This report is very misleading since it does not take into account all taxes residents pay. The study notes that Bridgeport residents only pay property taxes while others will pay sales taxes and income taxes to cities on top of their local property tax bills. I believe they also pay County taxes which we do not have here in Connecticut. When all local taxes are calculated Bridgeport drops significantly and I believe Birmingham AL becomes the top taxpayer. Still I am not saying taxes are not high in Bridgeport. They are but maybe just not as high as the article is making them out to be. Jay
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