[Tetto]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

No thanks, I don't bow down to authority I question it. The police work for me and society at large, I and society don't work for them.

The worst part of that video is the cop firing at least 7 shots at the car while its driving away. His life was not in danger if the car is driving away.

They are very lucky they didnt shoot or kill a bystander. This is mostly due to the time of day and season the crime took place. If this happened at 1pm in September there would have been people on the street.


Chamberlain elementary school is also in that area. IF a stray bullet killed your child you wouldn't be praising the police.


The end of the report also states that they could not determine which [police] gun fired the shot that killed the perp. That is 100% BS. That's what ballistics are for. And if they are going to tell us that they can not find the bullet that killed the perp, they needed to look harder.

These are the questions lawyers and juries should be asking, not a bunch of fools on an anonymous internet forum. In the current political environment, the families most likely will not get that chance. Since if local prosecution will not prosecute the case, the next step is the Justice Dept. That's not going to happen though with Trump et al in charge.

I would like to see you work as a police officer for a month, then see how you armchair quarterbacking works with the lowlifes you need to deal with. I’m thinking a guy like you, after a little exposure to the dregs of society and trying to deal with them and get home after work, you’d be a different person. A majority of my family works in a law enforcement and it isn’t an easy job. You have seconds to make a decision to save your or someone else’s life...is it always perfect? No of course not, but who do YOU call when your being broken into, or home invaded or robbed and beaten? A social worker?

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

No thanks, I don't bow down to authority I question it. The police work for me and society at large, I and society don't work for them.

The worst part of that video is the cop firing at least 7 shots at the car while its driving away. His life was not in danger if the car is driving away.

They are very lucky they didnt shoot or kill a bystander. This is mostly due to the time of day and season the crime took place. If this happened at 1pm in September there would have been people on the street.


Chamberlain elementary school is also in that area. IF a stray bullet killed your child you wouldn't be praising the police.


The end of the report also states that they could not determine which [police] gun fired the shot that killed the perp. That is 100% BS. That's what ballistics are for. And if they are going to tell us that they can not find the bullet that killed the perp, they needed to look harder.

These are the questions lawyers and juries should be asking, not a bunch of fools on an anonymous internet forum. In the current political environment, the families most likely will not get that chance. Since if local prosecution will not prosecute the case, the next step is the Justice Dept. That's not going to happen though with Trump et al in charge.

Sorry MrGompers but if police do not take actions to stop criminals like these, what prevents anyone from continuing to break the law and doing more harm? The police were clearly within their rights to stop them. If we question that we undermine their ability to enforce the law and keep lawful people safe. Jay

[quintia]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry MrGompers but if police do not take actions to stop criminals like these, what prevents anyone from continuing to break the law and doing more harm? The police were clearly within their rights to stop them. If we question that we undermine their ability to enforce the law and keep lawful people safe. Jay

Stop them, yes. Firing 28 shots in 10 seconds and hitting a potential suspect multiple times, not so much.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry MrGompers but if police do not take actions to stop criminals like these, what prevents anyone from continuing to break the law and doing more harm? The police were clearly within their rights to stop them. If we question that we undermine their ability to enforce the law and keep lawful people safe. Jay

Amen.

I never feel sorry for a gangster murdered in action.

I am delighted one more piece of trash is off the streets.

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[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by quintia

Stop them, yes. Firing 28 shots in 10 seconds and hitting a potential suspect multiple times, not so much.

It’s not like 28 shots were fired by one. When an officer fires shots to stop the threat, they do so without knowing (or caring) how many shots the other officers are firing. It’s about 9 shots per officer. Not so much when you consider, statistically, more than 9 of 10 shots won’t hit their target in the heat of the moment.

Amazing to me the viewpoints of some people when it comes to using deadly force against violent, career felons.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry MrGompers but if police do not take actions to stop criminals like these, what prevents anyone from continuing to break the law and doing more harm? The police were clearly within their rights to stop them. If we question that we undermine their ability to enforce the law and keep lawful people safe. Jay

Spot on, Jay.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

It’s not like 28 shots were fired by one. When an officer fires shots to stop the threat, they do so without knowing (or caring) how many shots the other officers are firing. It’s about 9 shots per officer. Not so much when you consider, statistically, more than 9 of 10 shots won’t hit their target in the heat of the moment.

Amazing to me the viewpoints of some people when it comes to using deadly force against violent, career felons.

I am shocked lefties haven't started a Go Fund Me page for the gangsters family.

I totally agree with you.

Glad one less thug is on the streets.

[Samantha830]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

No thanks, I don't bow down to authority I question it. The police work for me and society at large, I and society don't work for them.

By law, the police have the right to use the same level of force, "plus one", that is being used against them.


A vehicle is a deadly weapon.


The suspects attempted to run them over, therefore using their deadly weapon in a way that can cause fatal injury.


Therefore, the cops reciprocated by using deadly force of their own.




What else is there to discuss?
Oh yeah, where is the rally of support for these brave officers, and the interviews with their families that were able to see them later that night?

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Samantha830

By law, the police have the right to use the same level of force, "plus one", that is being used against them.

A vehicle is a deadly weapon.

The suspects attempted to run them over, therefore using their deadly weapon in a way that can cause fatal injury.

Therefore, the cops reciprocated by using deadly force of their own.

What else is there to discuss?
Oh yeah, where is the rally of support for these brave officers, and the interviews with their families that were able to see them later that night?

Not to mention they have been out of work for over one year while they completed the investigation, and the anti-police left-wingers are still carrying pitchforks. Amazing.

[MikefromCT]

I find it surreal that people are actually sympathizing with people like this. Reminds me of some of the parents I see on TV when a lowlife is gunned down, where the mothers are mourning and saying, "He was such a good kid!" If he was such a good kid, what the hell was he doing wandering the streets @2 AM or dealing drugs?

We can still address individual cases of police brutality and officers overstepping their bounds WITHOUT making lumping them into the same generalization that this is how they all behave, because in reality most of them do not.

For a while, I sympathized a great deal with civilians who were active in the BLM movement, and some of their conflicts such as a lack of communication and poor relations with police are indeed valid, but eventually my sympathies swung more towards the police. The turning point involved a fatal police shooting of a black policewoman in the Morris Heights section of the Bronx making the news. Hearing the audio track of the dispatcher call, and knowing that the person responsible did this to one of their own was all I needed to know that this was a war against police, and the people shooting police don't discriminate with regards to race. Currently, there has never been a more dangerous time in history to be in law enforcement, and just as our juvenile laws do nothing to deter crime, too many people have no qualms about shooting cops. That's a problem.