[Wilton2ParkAve]

Originally Posted by Beeker2211

Hey when it concerns the relationship between the states I'm just quoting Fmr. Justice Scalia.



But the progressive agenda? You're in CT, or system and history is built for it. Again.... I think the particular bills are fatally flawed but I seriously can't help but notice that the biggest complainers about propriety tax in CT are the same complaining about the bills. The approach of do nothing but kvetch about everything is coming to a sharp end. For the state to thrive and survive we'll need big ideas and honest talk about how we do it.

We are solvent for the next twenty years if all we do is cease the gamesmanship with pensions. No more padding with overtime, coaching, or calculation based on most recent/highest paying years of service. We should also contemplate raising the annual contribution. As of now it’s 5% of compensation which equates to just one year of average salary over those 20 working years (pre-market action/growth). Roughly 3 years of average compensation including 7.5% annual growth yet we allow 30-40 years of draw on that amount set aside. More needs to be contributed - likely front loaded to capture more compounding. Unfortunately we didn’t follow the actuary tables and hoarded the contributions and are now paying the price. That said, I’m not calling for any reneging of pensions - just a level set to reality.

[Beeker2211]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

As has been previously stated, the concern is the ulterior motive of the mentioned progressive agenda that would be far more economically damaging in years ahead than remaining status quo.

Dig a little deeper.

Yeah the progressives are champing at the bit to seize the means of production. Orrrr, and here me out here, the status quo has allowed the older generation above my age group to go well under taxed at our expense.


Wilson,


You hit the nail on the head. Simple changes to the formulations of pension benefits are suitable that help all parties and reduce liability and risk for the workers. Just takes political will which I hope is there

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Beeker2211

Yeah the progressives are champing at the bit to seize the means of production. Orrrr, and here me out here, the status quo has allowed the older generation above my age group to go well under taxed at our expense.


Wilson,


You hit the nail on the head. Simple changes to the formulations of pension benefits are suitable that help all parties and reduce liability and risk for the workers. Just takes political will which I hope is there

In many ways, they are. There is a difference between being a democrat and being part of this progressive movement. The true democrats should be condemning the hijack of their party by these leftist zealots.

Since you brought up history, how quickly we forget the post-civil war troubles cities brought on themselves by spending needlessly and essentially left the debt to states. Whole cities were dissolved and abandoned because of lack of fiscal conservativism. This led states to enact the very laws we are bound by today, making the cities a creature of the states. Fast forward to today, it’s amazing how that role has flipped; the state in horrific debt using those same laws as an advantage to remove funding from fiscally sound communities and it’s residents. Should new laws be enacted now, since they were then?

[Mike 75]

Originally Posted by CTartist

My First Selectwoman Tesoro and Representative Dave Rutigliano (who lives in Trumbull) testified at the hearing.
https://patch.com/connecticut/trumbu...ign=newsletter

Rutigliano--Republican
"We in Trumbull take great pride in our school system and the achievements of the students. This has resulted in a migration of residents to Trumbull and the sustainability of our property values, our school system is important to our city's development and infrastructure. The forced regionalization of school districts is putting that development in jeopardy," Rutigliano said.

Tesoro--Demcorat
Tesoro said, "In Trumbull, our school system is critical to our identity as a community. Our investment in education is one that our community embraces and the success of our students is a matter of civic pride. Our strong school system supports our property values and attracts new residents to our community, bringing to us a steady stream of new ideas and energy."

I am glad that someone from each party made a statement. I am also proud of my First Selectwoman for going against her party and putting Trumbull first before party.

What other choice does she have? If she even appears to have the slightest bit of support for regionalization, she will be run out of town. As it is, Dems in the suburbs are going to have a hell of time come 2020 as a result of this. This is a gift to the GOP.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Mike 75

What other choice does she have? If she even appears to have the slightest bit of support for regionalization, she will be run out of town. As it is, Dems in the suburbs are going to have a hell of time come 2020 as a result of this. This is a gift to the GOP.

Now is the time the CT GOP needs to come up with a solid candidate.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Now is the time the CT GOP needs to come up with a solid candidate.

I agree but unfortunately they keeping failing at this. The Republicans had the best chance to elect a Governor after 8 years of unpopular Malloy yet they nominated Stefanowski and Marley. As a Republican, I do not have much hope of anything changing here. Jay

[CTartist]

This is posted on "Doing it Local" with a little map of what could occur with the school districts based on probate court districts. I have no idea what that means but there is it. In the link you can see a statement by Mr. Tony Hwang a state senator who lives in Fairfield. Mr. Hwang is a realtor. I have met him at my Starbuck's in Trumbull a few times and even though he is a Republican he seems more like an Independent in thought.



https://www.facebook.com/DoingItLoca...&theater&ifg=1

For me in Trumbull if this does come to pass it would be great as we would be folded in with Monroe and Easton. Easton has a superior school system and Monroe is about the same as Trumbull. But Easton would not like this very much. Easton cultivated a superior school system and I am the first to say that it is not fair to them.

Mr. Hwang's district is Fairfield, Easton and Newtown.

No wonder Wilton is fighting this very hard. I just noticed they would be folded in with Norwalk based on the map above.

[Wilton2ParkAve]

Originally Posted by CTartist

This is posted on "Doing it Local" with a little map of what could occur with the school districts based on probate court districts. I have no idea what that means but there is it. In the link you can see a statement by Mr. Tony Hwang a state senator who lives in Fairfield. Mr. Hwang is a realtor. I have met him at my Starbuck's in Trumbull a few times and even though he is a Republican he seems more like an Independent in thought.

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https://www.facebook.com/DoingItLoca...&theater&ifg=1

For me in Trumbull if this does come to pass it would be great as we would be folded in with Monroe and Easton. Easton has a superior school system and Monroe is about the same as Trumbull. But Easton would not like this very much. Easton cultivated a superior school system and I am the first to say that it is not fair to them.

Mr. Hwang's district is Fairfield, Easton and Newtown.

No wonder Wilton is fighting this very hard. I just noticed they would be folded in with Norwalk based on the map above.

Be careful - the probate alignment is just a straw man and can easily change before a vote. That is specific to one of the three bills only. Under all three we are surrendering local control to the state and or an unelected commission. Be very afraid - the legislature is hoping to elicit reactions from voters like yourself.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

Be careful - the probate alignment is just a straw man and can easily change before a vote. That is specific to one of the three bills only. Under all three we are surrendering local control to the state and or an unelected commission. Be very afraid - the legislature is hoping to elicit reactions from voters like yourself.

Exactly. This could easily be the first step in merging big cities into the suburbs to “fix” them. Again, they should stop trying to fix what is not broken. This is fixing what is not broken. Jay

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Exactly. This could easily be the first step in merging big cities into the suburbs to “fix” them. Again, they should stop trying to fix what is not broken. This is fixing what is not broken. Jay

Yep.

Though I’m no longer a CT resident, I’m still a property owner and have a vested interest in the state. I wrote a strongly worded letter to my state rep on this. I doubt Hartford cares.