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Old 11-20-2019, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I thought the state banned PLASTIC bags. Why are stores charging for paper bags then?
Initialy I was behind the effort of getting consumers in the habit of reusables, but I agree with CT Yank.
It's now morphed into a two-headed monster. A joint grab by both the state and the greedy corps like Banana Republic and their sh#tty clothing manufactured overseas by slave labour in Indonesia or God knows where.
Why are they charging for PAPER!
It's amazing that more people aren't asking that question.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I've only been there a few times, I'm not sure on the plastic. I am happy to use the sturdy paper bag with handles though. Guess I am not cool lol
LOL. I have never actually bought anything at Trader Joe's. The best description I have ever heard of Trader Joe's is that it's a 7-Eleven for the upper class, which I agree with. But I have about a dozen of those heavy canvas TJ bags. My former landlord would buy them, and use them just one time, then throw them away. They seemed too good to just throw away, so I grabbed some them.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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All stores were using paper bags before plastic bags became common, for many good reasons. Them being cheaper and more durable, to name just two. Trader Joe's was no exception.
Your pic is incredibly recent. Plastic bags became common when - in the 80s? 90s? I moved out on my own in the 80s and remember it being easy to get paper still even though plastic was still there. I only used plastic for meats because they were messy and could leak through the paper. It seems to me that it was more the late 90s when plastic bags became the "norm" and it was harder to find paper in places other than Whole Foods.

I'm thinking WF and TJ used paper (and their own reusable bags) because they want to be perceived as more environmentally conscious than the chain grocery stores?

How about Stew Leonards? I haven't been there in years. I know I have plastic bags from them, I used one yesterday for litter. It was thick! But we often went for the meat specials so it makes sense we'd use plastic for that.


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LOL. I have never actually bought anything at Trader Joe's. The best description I have ever heard of Trader Joe's is that it's a 7-Eleven for the upper class, which I agree with. But I have about a dozen of those heavy canvas TJ bags. My former landlord would buy them, and use them just one time, then throw them away. They seemed too good to just throw away, so I grabbed some them.
I've only been to Manchester and only since last month. While housesitting a couple of years ago, I used their Tea Tree Tingle shampoo that was in the shower, liked it, and bought it a few times on Amazon. Last month I decided to pick up some more (I didn't know how incredibly overpriced their items are on Amazon!!) and bought a few other things too. I've had no complaints with anything I bought. I like the store a lot better than WF, though a lot of that could have to do with the clientele difference between Manchester and Glastonbury.

I think I'd call it Whole Foods for the lower class! I'd trust their organic and natural items a lot more than S&S's Natural Promise organic line.

The Manchester store is pretty small though, I'm not sure if that's a normal size.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:21 AM
 
Location: USA
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Your pic is incredibly recent. Plastic bags became common when - in the 80s? 90s? I moved out on my own in the 80s and remember it being easy to get paper still even though plastic was still there. I only used plastic for meats because they were messy and could leak through the paper. It seems to me that it was more the late 90s when plastic bags became the "norm" and it was harder to find paper in places other than Whole Foods.

I'm thinking WF and TJ used paper (and their own reusable bags) because they want to be perceived as more environmentally conscious than the chain grocery stores?

How about Stew Leonards? I haven't been there in years. I know I have plastic bags from them, I used one yesterday for litter. It was thick! But we often went for the meat specials so it makes sense we'd use plastic for that.




I've only been to Manchester and only since last month. While housesitting a couple of years ago, I used their Tea Tree Tingle shampoo that was in the shower, liked it, and bought it a few times on Amazon. Last month I decided to pick up some more (I didn't know how incredibly overpriced their items are on Amazon!!) and bought a few other things too. I've had no complaints with anything I bought. I like the store a lot better than WF, though a lot of that could have to do with the clientele difference between Manchester and Glastonbury.

I think I'd call it Whole Foods for the lower class! I'd trust their organic and natural items a lot more than S&S's Natural Promise organic line.

The Manchester store is pretty small though, I'm not sure if that's a normal size.
I've never seen plastic bags in a TJ or WF in CT or CA. Always paper long before any bans.

Stews switched to paper with handles. They're iconic plastic bags will be missed.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Congrats. It should go up a lot more, now that the tree huggers have all become tree haters, and want to cut them all down to protect us from the evils of plastic bags.
It's much different today with paper bags. Before the introduction of the single use plastic, paper was made from virgin pulp. Today, paper bags are made from recycled paper and fewer trees are consumed.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Your pic is incredibly recent. Plastic bags became common when - in the 80s? 90s? I moved out on my own in the 80s and remember it being easy to get paper still even though plastic was still there. I only used plastic for meats because they were messy and could leak through the paper. It seems to me that it was more the late 90s when plastic bags became the "norm" and it was harder to find paper in places other than Whole Foods.

I'm thinking WF and TJ used paper (and their own reusable bags) because they want to be perceived as more environmentally conscious than the chain grocery stores?

How about Stew Leonards? I haven't been there in years. I know I have plastic bags from them, I used one yesterday for litter. It was thick! But we often went for the meat specials so it makes sense we'd use plastic for that.




I've only been to Manchester and only since last month. While housesitting a couple of years ago, I used their Tea Tree Tingle shampoo that was in the shower, liked it, and bought it a few times on Amazon. Last month I decided to pick up some more (I didn't know how incredibly overpriced their items are on Amazon!!) and bought a few other things too. I've had no complaints with anything I bought. I like the store a lot better than WF, though a lot of that could have to do with the clientele difference between Manchester and Glastonbury.

I think I'd call it Whole Foods for the lower class! I'd trust their organic and natural items a lot more than S&S's Natural Promise organic line.

The Manchester store is pretty small though, I'm not sure if that's a normal size.
To me Trader Joe's is just a convenience store. It's too small to do any serious shopping and the prices are not great.

Plastic grocery bags were introduced in Europe in 1965 and the US in 1979. I'd say they became common when Safeway and Kroger started offering them in 1982. But it was in the 1990s when they pretty much completely replaced paper bags.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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It's much different today with paper bags. Before the introduction of the single use plastic, paper was made from virgin pulp. Today, paper bags are made from recycled paper and fewer trees are consumed.
No matter how you look at it, that is going to be a lot more trees cut down. And with our current climate situation... is all I can say.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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No matter how you look at it, that is going to be a lot more trees cut down. And with our current climate situation... is all I can say.
Keep in mind those most of trees are farmed for paper. It's not like virgin forest is being clear cut to make paper.
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Old 11-22-2019, 04:42 AM
 
Location: New Britain, CT
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Again, it is NOT a cash grab by the state.
Its a method to reduce usage of plastic bags. Making money from it is a side benefit.
Keep drinking the Koolaid.
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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Even if you voted for Lamont (like I did) you have to admit this is funny.

https://www.ctpost.com/local/article...lGZvb4Nsque3L8

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