[ProudFairfielder]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

So you’re okay with Fairfield becoming Bridgeport? That way, all of Fairfield’s residents can now send their kids to school with Bridgeport’s finest. Sounds great.

We only got in this situation because BPT has half of Fairfield's area.

While (again) annexation will never occur the whole point of Metrocog is to provide "greater BPT" (which would be the city limits for BPT if it were in a western state) a space to collaborate.


If the inner suburbs of each city all rejoined the center it would make regional planning infinitely easier (For example, if 'Staven was a part of NH then Tweed would be a much larger airport which would boost NH's economy). Same with Lordship, Sikorsky, and BPT. For a western example Denver simply annexed the land required to build a larger aiport.

But guess what?? subrubanites in this state will fight it tooth and nail, as they are in this thread. And so our inner cities will continue to suffer.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

We only got in this situation because BPT has half of Fairfield's area.

While (again) annexation will never occur the whole point of Metrocog is to provide "greater BPT" (which would be the city limits for BPT if it were in a western state) a space to collaborate.


If the inner suburbs of each city all rejoined the center it would make regional planning infinitely easier (For example, if 'Staven was a part of NH then Tweed would be a much larger airport which would boost NH's economy). Same with Lordship, Sikorsky, and BPT. For a western example Denver simply annexed the land required to build a larger aiport.

But guess what?? subrubanites in this state will fight it tooth and nail, as they are in this thread. And so our inner cities will continue to suffer.

2020 is a lot different than times when cities were evolving decades and centuries ago. The suburbs are well established and to redraw lines would mean modern day flight out of those inner suburbs. Nobody can say with a straight face Fairfield, Trumbull and even Stratford wouldn’t suffer if it became a neighborhood of Bridgeport.

The lack of placing accountability on political leadership in these cities in this thread is concerning. There are ways to fix what’s going on, but pandering to their base is more important.

[ProudFairfielder]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

2020 is a lot different than times when cities were evolving decades and centuries ago. The suburbs are well established and to redraw lines would mean modern day flight out of those inner suburbs. Nobody can say with a straight face Fairfield, Trumbull and even Stratford wouldn’t suffer if it became a neighborhood of Bridgeport.

The lack of placing accountability on political leadership in these cities in this thread is concerning. There are ways to fix what’s going on, but pandering to their base is more important.

You're thinking short term. It would hurt, absolutely. Long term, however, it would stabilize. in fact we're even seeing this at a smaller scale within the urban cores of today (revitalization).

[Wilton2ParkAve]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

You're thinking short term. It would hurt, absolutely. Long term, however, it would stabilize. in fact we're even seeing this at a smaller scale within the urban cores of today (revitalization).

Okay - do sell me the long term. Art of the possible. Without an airport or a significant multiple of density you aren’t going to effectuate growth businesses electing our slightly larger, highly taxed urban centers that lack real mass transit and international airports. You’ve also just killed our best export - schools. Nothing myopic or backwards in stating these undeniable facts.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

You're thinking short term. It would hurt, absolutely. Long term, however, it would stabilize. in fact we're even seeing this at a smaller scale within the urban cores of today (revitalization).

“Revitalization” is code for getting rid of the poor people. What do you propose to do with them? Wave a magic wand and turn them into university educated white collar professionals?

Socioeconomic class mobility in the United States has pretty much ended. It’s now less mobile than the UK with their entrenched class system. If you’re born in the bottom quintile, you have extremely low odds of ever escaping. You can’t pass a law insisting people be good parents. You can’t confiscate children from poor parents and have the state raise them. Until society changes and becomes insistent that parents do their jobs and that children be properly educated with 21st century job skills, we’re stuck with this generational poverty problem and failed cities.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

“Revitalization” is code for getting rid of the poor people. What do you propose to do with them? Wave a magic wand and turn them into university educated white collar professionals?

Socioeconomic class mobility in the United States has pretty much ended. It’s now less mobile than the UK with their entrenched class system. If you’re born in the bottom quintile, you have extremely low odds of ever escaping. You can’t pass a law insisting people be good parents. You can’t confiscate children from poor parents and have the state raise them. Until society changes and becomes insistent that parents do their jobs and that children be properly educated with 21st century job skills, we’re stuck with this generational poverty problem and failed cities.

Took the words right out of my mouth. This wouldn’t help boost the low income, according to that poster; it would force them out.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by parentologist

Uh, think again. If corrupt Hartford were somehow able to annex West Hartford, the same thing would happen that happened in the 60's in Hartford. Most of the residents of West Hartford would move, en masse, out to Simsbury, Farmington, Avon. And the ruinous, crime-ridden, corrupt slum that is Hartford would simply expand.

Uh, think again, highly doubt it. This isn't the 1960s where homes out in the burbs cost 10 grand.
What are they going to do, tear down homes and build slums?
Impoverished folks are stuck right where they are. They ain't goin' anywhere.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

So you’re okay with Fairfield becoming Bridgeport? That way, all of Fairfield’s residents can now send their kids to school with Bridgeport’s finest. Sounds great.

Why combine two of the state's largest cities. Wouldn't Fairfield annexing Easton and Bridgeport annexing Trumbull make more sense.
Moot for the southern west coastal part of the state anyway. The region is doing fine economically.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by SteveM85

Why combine two of the state's largest cities. Wouldn't Fairfield annexing Easton and Bridgeport annexing Trumbull make more sense.
Moot for the southern west coastal part of the state anyway. The region is doing fine economically.

This thread is about the core impoverished cities annexing its suburbs, meaning Bridgeport would annex all of them. That’s how cities in the south and some out west are set up. Not suburb annexing suburb.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

This thread is about the core impoverished cities annexing its suburbs, meaning Bridgeport would annex all of them. That’s how cities in the south and some out west are set up. Not suburb annexing suburb.

I understand that but Fairfield is pretty massive on its own.