[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Amen.

We in the tri-state happen to be the epicenter, but we need to remind ourselves that means much of the nation is experiencing far milder cases per capita.

Exactly. The DC area is largely unscathed. The only other hard hit areas are probably Boston, Seattle, Detroit and Miami metros. This lockdown needs to be tailored to those areas. Even eastern CT should be largely open for business.

[BPt111]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Exactly. The DC area is largely unscathed. The only other hard hit areas are probably Boston, Seattle, Detroit and Miami metros. This lockdown needs to be tailored to those areas. Even eastern CT should be largely open for business.

Don’t forget New Orleans

[JGBigGreen]

Do you seriously think, with the levels of unemployment being what they are in the US right now, that millions of people haven’t lost their health insurance? Some may be able to afford COBRA, some may go onto a family members plan, some government insurance but many, many people will be uninsured.

Originally Posted by lookingforachangeSWCT

Don't be dramatic. The stimulus package passed with unemployment benefits including an extra $600 per week, which I think is generous. And I am certain very few have lost their health coverage since late February. This is a time to exercise extreme caution, to be prudent, to be frugal, and to help our family and extended family (if we have them) if they are in need.

[lookingforachangeSWCT]

People can always travel. And stupidly, people will travel. And all it takes is a few cases, and those few cases become a few hundred, which in turn become a few thousand or more. No, eastern CT should not be open for business; that is not only foolish but dangerous. And no, the United States is not ready to open for business at the present time. If you believe so, perhaps you should visit an ICU, or at the very least, get the opinion of a good physician who has treated virus patients. Learn some patience, think of others less fortunate than yourselves (especially those who are sick with this wicked plaque), and set the greed aside for awhile.

[lookingforachangeSWCT]

Originally Posted by JGBigGreen

Do you seriously think, with the levels of unemployment being what they are in the US right now, that millions of people haven’t lost their health insurance? Some may be able to afford COBRA, some may go onto a family members plan, some government insurance but many, many people will be uninsured.

If so, this is precisely why we must have:

"the right to adequate medical care, and the opportunity to achieve and to enjoy good health"
"the right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment"

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by in_newengland

I can't rep you again but I agree 100%. I listen to a radio station in the UK and those people are not screaming about having to stay inside. They don't like staying home but they're not panicking because they lost their health insurance. Actually, they're going outside once a week, clapping their hands and ringing bells to show their gratitude to their National Health System.

Here, too much depends upon your job and so much is work-work-work and money-money-money. If only we could learn a lesson from this tragic disease and not tie health insurance to employment. Also, be a bit more generous to the needy--because anyone can become needy.

Despite some of the rhetoric going on, I am hoping that is one thing that comes out of this crisis. A lot depends on where we are in November and where it goes from there....

[Stepfordct]

Originally Posted by lookingforachangeSWCT

Don't be dramatic. The stimulus package passed with unemployment benefits including an extra $600 per week, which I think is generous. And I am certain very few have lost their health coverage since late February. This is a time to exercise extreme caution, to be prudent, to be frugal, and to help our family and extended family (if we have them) if they are in need.

Shades of grey. We're not going back to normal tomorrow. We're discussing options. You know who pays unemployment benefits. Business owners. Guess what it's broke by now. When Obama increased it to 2 years while in office....who paid? Business owners again. The SBA benefits we are getting are a joke. All it does is help me pay you and that's about it. Most who applied got zip.

So if we don't reopen soon more than we are today......there will be nothing left. If I make no money, I can't pay you, my landlord, utilities, taxes, your UI Bennie's etc....guess what.....there's not got be anyone crazy enough to replace me after seeing how badly this goes down.

So life isn't risk free. Not for me in business, not for people who don't take care of their health etc....
We all know people at higher risk. We must challenge ourselves to find a balance.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by JGBigGreen

Do you seriously think, with the levels of unemployment being what they are in the US right now, that millions of people haven’t lost their health insurance? Some may be able to afford COBRA, some may go onto a family members plan, some government insurance but many, many people will be uninsured.

Correct.

The economic consequences of this may end up more deadly than the virus itself.

FFC & NHC are not ready to open, but I do think Eastern Ct may well be.

We need our economy starting to reopen right after May 20.

1 in 5.5 Ct residents lost jobs the last 4 weeks (332k last I saw in Ct Post). A significant portion of businesses closing, not just in Ct but nationally, will not end up reopening.

[lookingforachangeSWCT]

Originally Posted by Stepfordct

Shades of grey. We're not going back to normal tomorrow. We're discussing options. You know who pays unemployment benefits. Business owners. Guess what it's broke by now. When Obama increased it to 2 years while in office....who paid? Business owners again. The SBA benefits we are getting are a joke. All it does is help me pay you and that's about it. Most who applied got zip.

So if we don't reopen soon more than we are today......there will be nothing left. If I make no money, I can't pay you, my landlord, utilities, taxes, your UI Bennie's etc....guess what.....there's not got be anyone crazy enough to replace me after seeing how badly this goes down.

So life isn't risk free. Not for me in business, not for people who don't take care of their health etc....
We all know people at higher risk. We must challenge ourselves to find a balance.

There you go blaming the victim, blaming the sick for being sick, rather than the virus itself. That's particularly cruel, by the way, and scientifically false. And don't give us all your bellyaching. We're all struggling to some degree at the present time; I've have to spend a fair amount of savings to live, as I'm sure millions of others have, but that's why one has savings in the first place.

[Stepfordct]

Originally Posted by lookingforachangeSWCT

There you go blaming the victim, blaming the sick for being sick, rather than the virus itself. That's particularly cruel, by the way, and scientifically false. And don't give us all your bellyaching. We're all struggling to some degree at the present time; I've have to spend a fair amount of savings to live, as I'm sure millions of others have, but that's why one has savings in the first place.

My point isn't to blame. It's how do we move forward effectively.
Nothing is perfect. Lots of people will become sick randomly....
Most will be ok, some will not. But we can't maintain this indefinitely without much more serious financial trouble for all. Of which I think some don't appreciate.