[brownedbits]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Our office just requires proof of vaccination to go into office. If not you have to work from home. Yours doesn’t?

Most organizations I know of are relying on self reporting (aka the honor system) and you do not have to provide proof of vaccination. Excluding the healthcare field and assuming that is not the field in which you work, you are the first I have heard of in CT who had to actually provide proof.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by brownedbits

Most organizations I know of are relying on self reporting (aka the honor system) and you do not have to provide proof of vaccination. Excluding the healthcare field and assuming that is not the field in which you work, you are the first I have heard of in CT who had to actually provide proof.

Our office is NYC based and apparently it was very common there in our industry (nowhere near healthcare) even before the city's recent push.

[Reilly1017]

You acknowledge you’ve seen some evidence masks reduce spread but not “enough”. They have done studies of people on airplanes, which require masking and very little spread seems to be a result of being packed in with 100 other people, who are wearing masks.

My Dad works on an assembly line / warehouse and every given year a bunch of workers get colds, flu, etc. he was essential, had to work tightly indoors with a lot of people from april 2020 thru feb 2021 pre-vaccine and the whole building was amazed no one got covid, or even sick for that matter. Everyone was more diligent, used hand sanitizer, washed hands, didn’t touch face and wore masks/face coverings 8 hours a day. SOMETHING they were doing was the reason no one ever got sick. In fact, a lot of people jokingly and seriously said they’d wear masks all the time at their work because they literally never got sick for the first time in years.

It’s not a vaccine substitute and not perfect but come on now. A seat belt doesn’t prevent all death, an umbrella doesn’t keep you perfectly dry but if someone is close to me and breathing, coughing, sneezing, talking, singing and I had a choice right now of masks on or off, I guess I’m just ridiculous for not minding that person where a mask. Asian countries have been wearing masks for years, I guess they all do it for fashion

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Reilly1017

Stylo, are you just looking to be confrontational and difficult?

You acknowledge you’ve seen some evidence masks reduce spread but not “enough”. They have done studies of people on airplanes, which require masking and very little spread seems to be a result of being packed in with 100 other people, who are wearing masks.

My Dad works on an assembly line / warehouse and every given year a bunch of workers get colds, flu, etc. he was essential, had to work tightly indoors with a lot of people from april 2020 thru feb 2021 pre-vaccine and the whole building was amazed no one got covid, or even sick for that matter. Everyone was more diligent, used hand sanitizer, washed hands, didn’t touch face and wore masks/face coverings 8 hours a day. SOMETHING they were doing was the reason no one ever got sick. In fact, a lot of people jokingly and seriously said they’d wear masks all the time at their work because they literally never got sick for the first time in years.

The problem here is nobody actually has solid proof that facial coverings and their statewide mandates work or don’t work, and all we can go based off of is what we know and experienced. I’m not sure why this is so difficult to realize.

Here’s what we know: the strictest states for masks saw insane spikes in COVID fall of 2020, which occurred during the strict mask mandate. If masks widely worked, a state that saw such a high percentage of their usage wouldn’t have had that insane spike. Sometimes, anecdotal evidence can be best. This is one of those times.

It’s a pretty cut and dry observation and I haven’t seen any experiences outlining why and how you know they work. I’m only seeing “masks work, we need them!” sort of replies with nothing to substantiate that claim.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by Reilly1017

Stylo, are you just looking to be confrontational and difficult?

You acknowledge you’ve seen some evidence masks reduce spread but not “enough”. They have done studies of people on airplanes, which require masking and very little spread seems to be a result of being packed in with 100 other people, who are wearing masks.

My Dad works on an assembly line / warehouse and every given year a bunch of workers get colds, flu, etc. he was essential, had to work tightly indoors with a lot of people from april 2020 thru feb 2021 pre-vaccine and the whole building was amazed no one got covid, or even sick for that matter. Everyone was more diligent, used hand sanitizer, washed hands, didn’t touch face and wore masks/face coverings 8 hours a day. SOMETHING they were doing was the reason no one ever got sick. In fact, a lot of people jokingly and seriously said they’d wear masks all the time at their work because they literally never got sick for the first time in years.

The above was exactly the case with my company. It's inconvenient as hell, especially since not the entire factory is climate controlled, but no employee is questioning the value of masking in containing Covid spread. It's only on social media (City-Data included) where that happens.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

The above was exactly the case with my company. It's inconvenient as hell, especially since not the entire factory is climate controlled, but no employee is questioning the value of masking in containing Covid spread. It's only on social media (City-Data included) where that happens.

It’s unsurprising an employee wouldn’t question their employer’s policy re: facial coverings. And at the same time, people have been so conditioned to believe everything they hear [from the media, CDC and politicians], especially in a COVID-cautious state like Connecticut.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Here’s what we know: the strictest states for masks saw insane spikes in COVID fall of 2020, which occurred during the strict mask mandate. If masks widely worked, a state that saw such a high percentage of their usage wouldn’t have had that insane spike. Sometimes, anecdotal evidence can be best. This is one of those times.

CT may have had a strict mandate but the general populace sure didn't care. Nobody partied harder than CT residents did from last summer and through the fall and winter. They masked in public stores but that was it. Bars and restaurants were packed. Masks were only used as a formality just to walk in. They may have been in violation but no one was checking and no one cared. FCounty Holiday parties and gatherings set new attendance records.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

It’s unsurprising an employee wouldn’t question their employer’s policy re: facial coverings. And at the same time, people have been so conditioned to believe everything they hear [from the media, CDC and politicians], especially in a COVID-cautious state like Connecticut.

You're literally ignoring the substance. The point was that the policy WORKED from Mar 2020 through May 2021! We had zero cases of workplace transmission among 200+ employees. Despite inability to socially distance in many parts of the factory.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

You're literally ignoring the substance. The point was that the policy WORKED from Mar 2020 through May 2021! We had zero cases of workplace transmission among 200+ employees. Despite inability to socially distance in many parts of the factory.

I’ll admit that’s impressive if true, but how do we know those infected (I’m assuming there were some infected from what you’re assuming to be at home transmission) weren’t from workplace transmission? Honor system?

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by SteveM85

CT may have had a strict mandate but the general populace sure didn't care. Nobody partied harder than CT residents did from last summer and through the fall and winter. They masked in public stores but that was it. Bars and restaurants were packed. Masks were only used as a formality just to walk in. They may have been in violation but no one was checking and no one cared. FCounty Holiday parties and gatherings set new attendance records.

In this very thread, Connecticut residents took pride in the state’s widespread mask usage, so what you’re suggesting hasn’t been said to be true by most here. Re “nobody parties harder than CT residents did”, I guess you didn’t see Miami during that time. Or Vegas. Or Palm Springs.