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Old 07-15-2021, 04:21 AM
 
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Not entirely. Lamont has been fiscally conservative and has fought the far left tax increase proposals. AOC doesn’t care how high taxes go. Jay
For now, Jay. Based on his capitulation on zoning bill, police "accountability" bill, and the "wipe felonies off your record" bill, he is showing spineless tendencies, and we know our liberal legislators are chomping at the bit to perpetually raise taxes.

Lamont actually reminds me more of Neville Chamberlain, Mr. Appease Hitler, than AOC. Whichever way the legislative wind shifts, Lamont will bend.

The good news is when he causes enough damage (and the reckless extension of his superpowers to 9-30 aids that), there is always major blowback from the public. Hopefully, a reformer style governor up the road can undo Lamont's and Malloy's damage, just as Rudy G & Bloomberg undid the massive damage of Koch & Dinkins in NYC.

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Old 07-15-2021, 06:22 AM
 
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For now, Jay. Based on his capitulation on zoning bill, police "accountability" bill, and the "wipe felonies off your record" bill, he is showing spineless tendencies, and we know our liberal legislators are chomping at the bit to perpetually raise taxes.

Lamont actually reminds me more of Neville Chamberlain, Mr. Appease Hitler, than AOC. Whichever way the legislative wind shifts, Lamont will bend.

The good news is when he causes enough damage (and the reckless extension of his superpowers to 9-30 aids that), there is always major blowback from the public. Hopefully, a reformer style governor up the road can undo Lamont's and Malloy's damage, just as Rudy G & Bloomberg undid the massive damage of Koch & Dinkins in NYC.
Fancy that, a Governor goes the way of a majority desire? Is that what basically government is? Appease the majority of people in your jurisidiction (albeit without infringing on the rights of the minority)?
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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Fancy that, a Governor goes the way of a majority desire? Is that what basically government is? Appease the majority of people in your jurisidiction (albeit without infringing on the rights of the minority)?
In this case, infringement is involved.

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Old 07-15-2021, 07:17 AM
 
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Fancy that, a Governor goes the way of a majority desire? Is that what basically government is? Appease the majority of people in your jurisidiction (albeit without infringing on the rights of the minority)?
The governor is simply following party rule. The vote following party lines. This isn't like there was a referendum held by voters.
This is a few dozen voting comrade. Party rule.
It's allegiance to the party above all.

As have stated before, many of these candidates campaign without any mention of party affiliation anywhere. They then promise to look at all issues based on it's merits alone, even stating that they will not simply vote based on party allegiance.

It's all B.S.

They are just trying to harvest every vote they can by deceit.

Once in they don't represent you and I anymore. Don't be naive.

They live and die by mob mentality. The mob is the party. Media controls the party....or is it the other way around!?
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:23 AM
 
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The governor is simply following party rule. The vote following party lines. This isn't like there was a referendum held by voters.
This is a few dozen voting comrade. Party rule.
It's allegiance to the party above all.

As have stated before, many of these candidates campaign without any mention of party affiliation anywhere. They then promise to look at all issues based on it's merits alone, even stating that they will not simply vote based on party allegiance.

It's all B.S.

They are just trying to harvest every vote they can by deceit.

Once in they don't represent you and I anymore. Don't be naive.

They live and die by mob mentality. The mob is the party. Media controls the party....or is it the other way around!?
This is not just a Democrat/Republican thing though. We don't have a direct democracy, the population doesn't vote on every topic directly.

While I don't like the system, people vote for who they want in office (a majority rule), those people in office vote typically similarly with their same party (majority rule) as their party holds similar values.

The next election time, if enough people don't like what they did they get voted out and the other party comes in to possible shift the majority. It just so happens more people who have "democrat" views are in this state as opposed to "republican" views. Hence more democrats are in the state government.

I understand the politicians 1st and 2nd priority is to getting reelected.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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This is not just a Democrat/Republican thing though. We don't have a direct democracy, the population doesn't vote on every topic directly.

While I don't like the system, people vote for who they want in office (a majority rule), those people in office vote typically similarly with their same party (majority rule) as their party holds similar values.

The next election time, if enough people don't like what they did they get voted out and the other party comes in to possible shift the majority. It just so happens more people who have "democrat" views are in this state as opposed to "republican" views. Hence more democrats are in the state government.

I understand the politicians 1st and 2nd priority is to getting reelected.
Absolutely.
Part of the challenge is.....and ok I'm biased here. But the Democratic party is reshaping itself so fast, no one honestly knows what's next.
Think some have buyer's remorse....
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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Absolutely.
Part of the challenge is.....and ok I'm biased here. But the Democratic party is reshaping itself so fast, no one honestly knows what's next.
Think some have buyer's remorse....
If you go to a heavily republican state the roles in our discussion here are reversed.
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:37 AM
 
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Fancy that, a Governor goes the way of a majority desire? Is that what basically government is? Appease the majority of people in your jurisidiction (albeit without infringing on the rights of the minority)?
Good point. He and the Democrats were elected by the majority of the voters. Their platform is well known or should be. Some, like me, don’t agree with it all but that doesn’t mean others don’t. People need to remember that. Jay
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:53 AM
 
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For now, Jay. Based on his capitulation on zoning bill, police "accountability" bill, and the "wipe felonies off your record" bill, he is showing spineless tendencies, and we know our liberal legislators are chomping at the bit to perpetually raise taxes.

Lamont actually reminds me more of Neville Chamberlain, Mr. Appease Hitler, than AOC. Whichever way the legislative wind shifts, Lamont will bend.

The good news is when he causes enough damage (and the reckless extension of his superpowers to 9-30 aids that), there is always major blowback from the public. Hopefully, a reformer style governor up the road can undo Lamont's and Malloy's damage, just as Rudy G & Bloomberg undid the massive damage of Koch & Dinkins in NYC.
Lamont has held the line with taxes though. He vetoed the PROTECT Act that the Democrats were pushing. He also vetoed three other bills this year so he’s not fully behind everything they pass. Past years have been the same. And he’s always been vocal about tax increases. There’s no guarantee but so far he’s stuck to that. Jay

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Old 07-15-2021, 10:33 AM
 
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Good point. He and the Democrats were elected by the majority of the voters. Their platform is well known or should be. Some, like me, don’t agree with it all but that doesn’t mean others don’t. People need to remember that. Jay
and, in our democracy, the minority one year may well become the plurality another year. We saw that in 2016 and 2020, as the flip flop amongst just 3 states, Pa, Wisconsin, & Michigan, decided both POTUS races.

We do NOT silence the minority in this nation.
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