[BobNJ1960]

The criminal records erasure bill is simply the latest, and amongst the worst, most out of touch things they have done. As kidyankee764 pointed out on the bill's thread, it includes erasing crimes like enticing a minor, and we all know the purpose of the enticement. That does not sit well with families with children, nor should it.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/conn...l#post61232843

Personally, I do not think any tweak they do now will erase the political damage for those who voted for it.

This is a suburban state, with a significant educated, mainstream, family values population, and folks, that is who votes disproportionately in midterm races.

The first time I worked in a campaign was for a local Democrat (yes JayCt, the Milford Democratic party long ago-always adored Margaret Egan, btw, such class), and I know many in both parties who sadly, cannot even fathom why the party went so away from the mainstream the last 2 decades in this state. While I left the party, the party left most mainstream voters long ago!

This is NOT a radical state by any stretch.

So curious to see if anyone can offer practical reasons for the massive ideological shift.

[Route7toRoute202]

I don't know exactly when but all I know is that they have ruined this state.

[WestRiverTraveler]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

The criminal records erasure bill is simply the latest, and amongst the worst, most out of touch things they have done. As kidyankee764 pointed out on the bill's thread, it includes erasing crimes like enticing a minor, and we all know the purpose of the enticement. That does not sit well with families with children, nor should it.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/conn...l#post61232843

Personally, I do not think any tweak they do now will erase the political damage for those who voted for it.

This is a suburban state, with a significant educated, mainstream, family values population, and folks, that is who votes disproportionately in midterm races.

The first time I worked in a campaign was for a local Democrat (yes JayCt, the Milford Democratic party long ago-always adored Margaret Egan, btw, such class), and I know many in both parties who sadly, cannot even fathom why the party went so away from the mainstream the last 2 decades in this state. While I left the party, the party left most mainstream voters long ago!

This is NOT a radical state by any stretch.

So curious to see if anyone can offer practical reasons for the massive ideological shift.

Neither you or Kidyankee responded and provided a counter to the links I provided that said sex-related crimes and a few other things were excluded in the final form. I'm a husband and father and this is of interest to me if what you both are saying is true.

"Crimes that will not be erased include burglary with a firearm, stalking, voyeurism, sex-related crimes involving minors and assault on the blind, elderly or pregnant women, among others."

and

"“Although certain categories of crimes such as sexually violent offenses or crimes designated as family violence crimes are not subject to erasure under this legislation, I continue to have concerns that more felonies were not excluded,” Lamont said in a letter to lawmakers that was released by his office in tandem with the announcement that he had signed the legislation.""

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...ivy-story.html

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

This is NOT a radical state by any stretch.

That's exactly right.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by WestRiverTraveler

Neither you or Kidyankee responded and provided a counter to the links I provided that said sex-related crimes and a few other things were excluded in the final form. I'm a husband and father and this is of interest to me if what you both are saying is true.

"Crimes that will not be erased include burglary with a firearm, stalking, voyeurism, sex-related crimes involving minors and assault on the blind, elderly or pregnant women, among others."

and

"“Although certain categories of crimes such as sexually violent offenses or crimes designated as family violence crimes are not subject to erasure under this legislation, I continue to have concerns that more felonies were not excluded,” Lamont said in a letter to lawmakers that was released by his office in tandem with the announcement that he had signed the legislation.""

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...ivy-story.html

Wow, good to know. Thanks for the info. I was also really concerned about this as well. It was a bald faced lie and I fell for it. Shame on me. My faith in CT has been somewhat restored.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by WestRiverTraveler

Neither you or Kidyankee responded and provided a counter to the links I provided that said sex-related crimes and a few other things were excluded in the final form. I'm a husband and father and this is of interest to me if what you both are saying is true.

"Crimes that will not be erased include burglary with a firearm, stalking, voyeurism, sex-related crimes involving minors and assault on the blind, elderly or pregnant women, among others."

and

"“Although certain categories of crimes such as sexually violent offenses or crimes designated as family violence crimes are not subject to erasure under this legislation, I continue to have concerns that more felonies were not excluded,” Lamont said in a letter to lawmakers that was released by his office in tandem with the announcement that he had signed the legislation.""

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...ivy-story.html

https://www.cthousegop.com/pavalock/...an-slate-bill/

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by WestRiverTraveler

Neither you or Kidyankee responded and provided a counter to the links I provided that said sex-related crimes and a few other things were excluded in the final form. I'm a husband and father and this is of interest to me if what you both are saying is true.

"Crimes that will not be erased include burglary with a firearm, stalking, voyeurism, sex-related crimes involving minors and assault on the blind, elderly or pregnant women, among others."

and

"“Although certain categories of crimes such as sexually violent offenses or crimes designated as family violence crimes are not subject to erasure under this legislation, I continue to have concerns that more felonies were not excluded,” Lamont said in a letter to lawmakers that was released by his office in tandem with the announcement that he had signed the legislation.""

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...ivy-story.html

I’m unsure where you asked this, and the link provided of the Courant isn’t working. Among those that qualify for erasure are possession of child pornography and enticing a minor. Both are sex crimes, and both were included in the final bill signed by Lamont. These are sex-related crimes.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

I’m unsure where you asked this, and the link provided by the Courant isn’t working. Among those that qualify for erasure are possession of child pornography and enticing a minor. Both are sex crimes, and both were included in the final bill signed by Lamont. These are sex-related crimes.

I would add after checking Milford's sex offenders registry, 7 were found guilty of possessing kiddie porn, 1 of enticing a minor. I highly doubt the thousands of parents in town would feel good not knowing how close they were to these 8 at all times.

These are the type of crimes that usually get associated with those who actually molest or rape children.

Why our legislature and governor cannot differentiate between crimes that are far more victimless and these hideous crimes is mind-boggling.

[LINative]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

The criminal records erasure bill is simply the latest, and amongst the worst, most out of touch things they have done. As kidyankee764 pointed out on the bill's thread, it includes erasing crimes like enticing a minor, and we all know the purpose of the enticement. That does not sit well with families with children, nor should it.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/conn...l#post61232843

Personally, I do not think any tweak they do now will erase the political damage for those who voted for it.

This is a suburban state, with a significant educated, mainstream, family values population, and folks, that is who votes disproportionately in midterm races.

The first time I worked in a campaign was for a local Democrat (yes JayCt, the Milford Democratic party long ago-always adored Margaret Egan, btw, such class), and I know many in both parties who sadly, cannot even fathom why the party went so away from the mainstream the last 2 decades in this state. While I left the party, the party left most mainstream voters long ago!

This is NOT a radical state by any stretch.

So curious to see if anyone can offer practical reasons for the massive ideological shift.

I would like to take a stab at your question, "How did Connecticut's Democratic party become so radically liberal?". But mind you, this is just a guess.

I think the root cause is our primary system, which I believe is similar in Connecticut as it is here in New York. The problem is so many people do not vote in the primaries, so the people who do come out are often the party true believers, many of the them the radicals of the left or the right.

Both major parties have the radicals wings coming out, but the Democrats, being our left wing party, have it potentially the worst.

[BPt111]

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